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Old 02-02-2018, 07:38 PM   #61
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The FBI is not a political body.

The 4 main people under attack by the Trump organization... the so called "deep state"... are all Republicans. That's not stopping them from doing their jobs, even in the face of unrelenting and cowardly attacks by POTUS and the majority in the house.

And good opposition research is very much not partisan. Democrats and Republicans hire the same companies to do their research. They present their findings. This idea that they are all of a sudden slanted in one way or another is ridiculous. Fusion GPS would have eventually found out all of the things in the Dossier if they were still funded by conservatives after the convention.

Nunes is a disgrace.
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I don't believe anyone here said otherwise to any of that, so I assume you're more or less talking to the internet in general.
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Something something Nick will argue against anything something something
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i must say that following this thread today from a beach chair in mexico with a head full of acid has been equal parts fascinating and entertaining. thank you all.
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I don't believe anyone here said otherwise to any of that, so I assume you're more or less talking to the internet in general.


Keep fighting the good fight Nick
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i must say that following this thread today from a beach chair in mexico with a head full of acid has been equal parts fascinating and entertaining. thank you all.
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So while the country and probably the world aren’t safer because of how stupid Trump and his team are

But imagine how much damage could have been done if they were so stupid.

Carter Page. Who would hire this guy?
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They hired him because no one with any credibility was willing to work for Trump.

Everyone thought it was a stunt. Including the “candidate” himself. The Russians wanted to disrupt our elections, and fuck with Hillary because they hated her and Obama not least because of the sanctions, and who better than the man who launders money for them and who they have on video being peed on by sex workers? I even wonder if the birth certificate, which was how Trump inserted himself into the Obama years conversation, was the start of all this.

I think the scenario everyone was working under was to make HRC damaged goods as much as possible — she’d win, but by much less than anticipated, and the bots working the fringes would create more hate for her among the Jill Stein idiots. (My guess is she’s on the payroll too). The GOP would continue to self-immolate to the applause of their base — they had enough problems listening to a black guy, and now a woman?!?! — and the GOP would retain control of the houses and we’d have gridlock and a damaged president.
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They hired him because no one with any credibility was willing to work for Trump.

Everyone thought it was a stunt. Including the “candidate” himself. The Russians wanted to disrupt our elections, and fuck with Hillary because they hated her and Obama not least because of the sanctions, and who better than the man who launders money for them and who they have on video being peed on by sex workers? I even wonder if the birth certificate, which was how Trump inserted himself into the Obama years conversation, was the start of all this.

I think the scenario everyone was working under was to make HRC damaged goods as much as possible — she’d win, but by much less than anticipated, and the bots working the fringes would create more hate for her among the Jill Stein idiots. (My guess is she’s on the payroll too). The GOP would continue to self-immolate to the applause of their base — they had enough problems listening to a black guy, and now a woman?!?! — and the GOP would retain control of the houses and we’d have gridlock and a damaged president.

While I like the elegance of this theory, and in some sense want it to be true because I loathe the Trump presidency, I do think we ought to be careful before asserting conspiracies that are based on information that is substantially less-than-verified.
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While I like the elegance of this theory, and in some sense want it to be true because I loathe the Trump presidency, I do think we ought to be careful before asserting conspiracies that are based on information that is substantially less-than-verified.


We’re just chatting. I’m making no assertions beyond the fact that this feels correct. It’s also not so much a conspiracy as a logical chain of (possible, even likely) events — I don’t see any mastermind, just actions and reactions.
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I'm fairly certain that Trump is at the very least heavily involved with criminals. It's pretty much public record.
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and the GOP would retain control of the houses and we’d have gridlock and a damaged president.
What do you think is going to happen in the 2018 mid terms?
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What do you think is going to happen in the 2018 mid terms?


Unless something happens, we’ll see Democrats make significant gains in the house. Not sure how much, but the most recent elections in Louisiana and Virginia are a template for what I think will likely happen.

The Senate has a very, very bad map. 2020 is a different story.
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Nah not his scam businesses. They are what they are... a con, but not necessarily illegal.

He has a long history both with the regular old American Italian mafia, and Russian mobsters and money launderers. It's not a secret, it's pretty wide open... we just aren't used to seeing it so blatantly with our presidential candidates so people just seem to think it's just a bunch of crap... but yea, it's fairly obvious and open.
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