so ... Mitt Romney.

[deep]

"As a Christian I am completely opposed to the doctrines of Mormonism," Bob Jones III said. "But I?m not voting for a preacher. I?m voting for a president. It boils down to who can best represent conservative American beliefs, not religious beliefs."

[diamond]

comgen is slashing his wrists about now.

[BVS]

For someone who always speaks of decorum, you sure don't ever display any

[coemgen]

Originally posted by diamond
comgen is slashing his wrists about now.

Uh, no. Still here. I could care less what the evangelical Right thinks. I don't think they represent the cause of Christ very well.

[coemgen]

Originally posted by deep


just one question

would you hold this same view of any christian that supported Joe Lieberman?

I'd be fine with that.

[deep]

Looks like Romney did o k at the "Values Voters Summit" this weekend.

Straw Poll Results

Mitt Romney 1595 27.62%
Mike Huckabee 1565 27.15%
Ron Paul 865 14.98%
Fred Thompson 564 9.77%
Undecided 329 5.70%
Sam Brownback 297 5.14%
Duncan Hunter 140 2.42%
Tom Tancredo 133 2.30%
Rudy Giuliani 107 1.85%
John McCain 81 1.40%
Not Voting 67 1.16%
Barack Obama 9 0.16%
Joe Biden 5 0.09%
Hillary Clinton 5 0.09%
John Edwards 4 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 4 0.07%
Christopher Dodd 2 0.03%
Bill Richardson 2 0.03%
Mike Gravel 1 0.02%
Total 5,775 100%

[coemgen]

What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?

[anitram]

Originally posted by coemgen
What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?

No, I'm sure there was time left over for creationism.

[diamond]

Originally posted by coemgen
What values did they discuss,

was it abortion and gay marriage?

abortion and gay marriage?

Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage?

abortion and gay marriage at all?

Family values, that was the theme of the conference.

Are your family values:

abortion and gay marriage only?


If so, this was not the conference for you.

dbs

[melon]

Originally posted by diamond
Are your family values:

abortion and gay marriage only?

Admittedly, though, these are the only two issues that the Religious Right seems to care about when selecting their politicians.

[financeguy]

Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.

[melon]

Originally posted by financeguy
Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.

Well, not only is he anti-abortion and anti-gay rights, but he's also for substantially lower taxes.

It's like a Religious Right wet dream.

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by coemgen
What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?

Totally! Why don't 50% of all of us who are Christians get divorced and further protect the sanctity of marriage?

[melon]

Originally posted by deep
Barack Obama 9 0.16%
Joe Biden 5 0.09%
Hillary Clinton 5 0.09%
John Edwards 4 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 4 0.07%
Christopher Dodd 2 0.03%
Bill Richardson 2 0.03%
Mike Gravel 1 0.02%

Uh oh...looks like 0.56% of them won't be invited to the next summit.

[coemgen]

Originally posted by melon


Admittedly, though, these are the only two issues that the Religious Right seems to care about when selecting their politicians.

This is what I was getting at. It's also why the religious right is losing power - Christians are finally starting to wake up and call them out on being so narrow-minded. Poverty and the environment are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.

[martha]

Originally posted by coemgen
Poverty .... are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.

pfft


Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!

[coemgen]

Originally posted by martha


pfft


Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!

I hope you're kidding. Of course I didn't mean it was a sin . . .

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by martha


pfft


Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!

I believe it's in Luke, right after He got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to His favorite televangelist.




I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.

[coemgen]

Originally posted by U2isthebest


I believe it's in Luke, right after he got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to his favorite televangelist.




I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.

Exactamundo

[LemonMelon]

Originally posted by martha


'Cos then we can pass a law against it!

That would kick ass. Unfortunately, it would be considered discriminatory to those of us already below the poverty line, foreigners, and college students.