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Old 10-16-2007, 04:13 PM   #381
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"As a Christian I am completely opposed to the doctrines of Mormonism," Bob Jones III said. "But I?m not voting for a preacher. I?m voting for a president. It boils down to who can best represent conservative American beliefs, not religious beliefs."
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comgen is slashing his wrists about now.
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For someone who always speaks of decorum, you sure don't ever display any

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comgen is slashing his wrists about now.
Uh, no. Still here. I could care less what the evangelical Right thinks. I don't think they represent the cause of Christ very well.
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just one question

would you hold this same view of any christian that supported Joe Lieberman?
I'd be fine with that.
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Looks like Romney did o k at the "Values Voters Summit" this weekend.



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Straw Poll Results

Mitt Romney 1595 27.62%
Mike Huckabee 1565 27.15%
Ron Paul 865 14.98%
Fred Thompson 564 9.77%
Undecided 329 5.70%
Sam Brownback 297 5.14%
Duncan Hunter 140 2.42%
Tom Tancredo 133 2.30%
Rudy Giuliani 107 1.85%
John McCain 81 1.40%
Not Voting 67 1.16%
Barack Obama 9 0.16%
Joe Biden 5 0.09%
Hillary Clinton 5 0.09%
John Edwards 4 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 4 0.07%
Christopher Dodd 2 0.03%
Bill Richardson 2 0.03%
Mike Gravel 1 0.02%
Total 5,775 100%
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What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?
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What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?
No, I'm sure there was time left over for creationism.
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What values did they discuss,

was it abortion and gay marriage?

abortion and gay marriage?

Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage?

abortion and gay marriage at all?
Family values, that was the theme of the conference.

Are your family values:

abortion and gay marriage only?


If so, this was not the conference for you.

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Are your family values:

abortion and gay marriage only?
Admittedly, though, these are the only two issues that the Religious Right seems to care about when selecting their politicians.
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Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.
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Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.
Well, not only is he anti-abortion and anti-gay rights, but he's also for substantially lower taxes.

It's like a Religious Right wet dream.
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What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?
Totally! Why don't 50% of all of us who are Christians get divorced and further protect the sanctity of marriage?
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Barack Obama 9 0.16%
Joe Biden 5 0.09%
Hillary Clinton 5 0.09%
John Edwards 4 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 4 0.07%
Christopher Dodd 2 0.03%
Bill Richardson 2 0.03%
Mike Gravel 1 0.02%
Uh oh...looks like 0.56% of them won't be invited to the next summit.
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Admittedly, though, these are the only two issues that the Religious Right seems to care about when selecting their politicians.
This is what I was getting at. It's also why the religious right is losing power - Christians are finally starting to wake up and call them out on being so narrow-minded. Poverty and the environment are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.
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Poverty .... are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.
pfft


Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
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Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
I hope you're kidding. Of course I didn't mean it was a sin . . .
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Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
I believe it's in Luke, right after He got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to His favorite televangelist.




I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.
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I believe it's in Luke, right after he got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to his favorite televangelist.




I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.
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'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
That would kick ass. Unfortunately, it would be considered discriminatory to those of us already below the poverty line, foreigners, and college students.
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