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Old 08-31-2008, 09:30 PM   #681
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The hypocrasy around this forum stinks to high heaven.


it's not the baby.

it's how the campaign is using the baby.
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it's not the baby.

it's how the campaign has manipulated that baby.
I agree IF this is true.

If it isn't, it makes people sound loony.

Like I said, if there are legs to this, somebody will dig it up, and the shit will hit the fan about her dishonesty, nevermind the illegality of it all - who claimed the kid on the tax return, who falsified medical records and on and on.

But until then, it sounds like tinfoil hat territory.
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The hypocrasy around this forum stinks to high heaven.
http://forum.interference.com/showpo...&postcount=798


So does the ability to post the same idea in two threads at the same time.
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it's not the baby.

it's how the campaign is using the baby.
I find this so offensive....

The campaign is using the baby? How?

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I find this so offensive....

The campaign is using the baby? How?



the campaign is using the baby to present Palin as *authentically* pro-life, as someone who walks the talk (as opposed to McCain, who has always had trouble with the Christianist base)

she had a baby that would likely be DS. and she carried it to term.

this was mentioned about her right off the bat. this was how she was rolled out to the base. this is why she brought in $7m for McCain in 24 hours.

it's a part of her narrative.

it could be argued that Obama's kids are part of his central narrative as a black father who's obviously stuck around.

and it could also be aruged that Palin *is* authentic, and that the enthusiasm for her amongst the anti-choice base, based on her and Trig, is entirely deserved.

but no one can deny that perhaps the central reason she was picked was to help McCain shore up his "base" -- the part of the Republican Party he's always had trouble with.
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So does the ability to post the same idea in two threads at the same time.
Oh surprise...more personal shit coming from you...
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the campaign is using the baby to present Palin as *authentically* pro-life, as someone who walks the talk (as opposed to McCain, who has always had trouble with the Christianist base)

she had a baby that would likely be DS. and she carried it to term.

this was mentioned about her right off the bat. this was how she was rolled out to the base. this is why she brought in $7m for McCain in 24 hours.

it's a part of her narrative.

it could be argued that Obama's kids are part of his central narrative as a black father who's obviously stuck around.

and it could also be aruged that Palin *is* authentic, and that the enthusiasm for her amongst the anti-choice base, based on her and Trig, is entirely deserved.

but no one can deny that perhaps the central reason she was picked was to help McCain shore up his "base" -- the part of the Republican Party he's always had trouble with.

And the DS child is being used? Give me a break...and we wonder how Bush got elected. I actually think McCain has so worked the left over with this pick they are going to blow it with these issues.

So, Basically, McCain has made this DS child an issue and is using this child, who the left bloggers are saying is not actually hers, and he has brought this on himself?

I know officially believe McCain is going to win this. You have convinced me.
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And the DS child is being used? Give me a break...and we wonder how Bush got elected.

no, i think this is how Bush was elected. he was seen as *authentically* one of the evangelicals, he could speak their language, he was a believer. thus, they turned out in droves and he eeked out two wins.

it's more important to be a believer than to be serious, in the minds of millions of Americans, evidently.


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I actually think McCain has so worked the left over with this pick they are going to blow it with these issues.

i agree, the Democrats will have to tread very carefully. Obama and Biden certainly did yesterday.




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So, Basically, McCain has made this DS child an issue and is using this child, who the left bloggers are saying is not actually hers, and he has brought this on himself?

yes.


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I know officially believe McCain is going to win this. You have convinced me.


then we're screwed.
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Obama and Biden deserve all the credit in the world. They are actually sticking to issues. If only their supporters would do the same.
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Obama and Biden deserve all the credit in the world. They are actually sticking to issues. If only their supporters would do the same.


i agree on this.

i did struggle with mentioning the mother/grandmother story.

but i figured, why not? it's going to come up over the next few days, so why not?

perhaps i shouldn't have.

but i stand by every single statement about what i've said about what the selection of Palin says about McCain and his campaign.

i know who i want to have making big decisions.
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Obama and Biden deserve all the credit in the world. They are actually sticking to issues. If only their supporters would do the same.
I've said several times that I don't give a shit about this baby story. And I don't think I'm the only one either.
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Watching them yesterday...was fun. They did a great job.
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as for the baby, here's what a blogger writes:

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Let me address one question being lobbed at me. Is raising questions about the Palin pregnancy a smear campaign? Here's why it's not. The circumstantial evidence for weirdness around this pregnancy is so great that legitimate questions arise - questions anyone with common sense would ask. The answers to those questions can easily be provided. This is an easier call than the "cross in the dirt" story, which will never be resolved one way or another. The McCain-Palin campaign can resolve this now with medical records, as are mandated for presidential candidates anyway.

The job of a press is to ask questions which have a basis in fact. Read for yourself the full chronology here. See whether you are certain there are no legitimate questions worth asking. I have claimed nothing. I am asking the McCain campaign to resolve a factual question which they must already have covered in the vetting process. After all, this baby was a centerpiece of the public case for Palin made by the Republicans. They made it an issue - and therefore it is legitimate to ask questions about it. That's all.
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While this plays lovely to the extreme left...it will drive anyone who may be near the center to the right.

Not good for the party...not good at all.
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and if you walk around liberal Huffington Post for a bit,

they are denouncing the story.

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While this plays lovely to the extreme left...
eh, i'm not getting my knickers in a bunch about it.
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and if you walk around liberal Huffington Post for a bit,

they are denouncing the story.

it hasn't even hit MRzine yet!
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I've said several times that I don't give a shit about this baby story. And I don't think I'm the only one either.
Same. I personally do not like the fact that Palin is going around using her child as a political tool, but, in the end, her parenting is not my business, so I probably should stay out of it. There is a 99% chance that this rumour is about as true as the Obama-is-a-radical-Muslim crap that also floats around the internets, and I intend to give Palin the benefit of the doubt, no matter how much I dislike her for other reasons and want to see her crushed by Biden.
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and if you walk around liberal Huffington Post for a bit,

they are denouncing the story.

Good, something rational to look forward to...

Have a nice night. You have reaffirmed my belief that I have no place in this forum until the election is over.
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Same. I personally do not like the fact that Palin is going around using her child as a political tool, .

now if only that mystery Palin baby would get carried off by a polar bear

this thing would be in the bag.
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