nbcrusader
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The "offensive" label is used to control the discussion, not evaluate the statement.
Hollywood should be big enough to take a jab now and again.
Hollywood should be big enough to take a jab now and again.
nbcrusader said:The "offensive" label is used to control the discussion, not evaluate the statement.
Hollywood should be big enough to take a jab now and again.
AchtungBono said:
I apologize for offending you but not for what I said.
If you're anti-war then that means that you don't want to fight the terrorists (you = general term), and if you don't want to fight the terrorists then that means that you want them to continue doing what they're doing......
How ELSE would you defeat them if you don't fight them??
Then what is the proper context of his quote equating the Iraqi "resistance" to the American minutemen?Irvine511 said:
i think that's a misrepresentation of Michael Moore.
i also wonder if there aren't lines to be drawn up between the insurgency, and Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
that said, and it bothers me that i have to actually come out and say this but such is the current climate, i do not see either the insurgency or Al-Qaeda as forces of national liberation.
digsy said:wow
i'm reading some pretty fucked up commentary in this thread
what the hell is wrong with some of you???
i think a few of you need to take a leaf out of Micheal Bergs book - a man who has closer ties to this situation than any of you can imagine
A_Wanderer said:Murdering a murderer who would murder many more is less wrong than leaving the murderer to murder multitudes.
It would be unnaceptable for an attack to be launced in the knowledge of inflicting any civilian casualties.BonoVoxSupastar said:
and how many innocents getting killed along the way is acceptable?
The rules or war are wierd aren't they?
A_Wanderer said:It would be unnaceptable for an attack to be launced in the knowledge of inflicting any civilian casualties.
Shag On A Rock said:Celebrating murder is wrong
Celebrating murdering the murderer is wrong.
Celebrating murder is wrong.
I'm not good with English. I'm EFL. But you know what I'm trying to say.
Murder is bad, badder than bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
A_Wanderer said:I didn't say that it doesn't matter, I said that if civilian casualties were a definite concequence of a strike then it wouldn't be right to take that strike. If the decision was made then it may well be unacceptable and deserving of reprimand.
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If the decision was made then it may well be unacceptable and deserving of reprimand.
U2DMfan said:
Define murder.
I know what you're trying to say, but apparently you don't understand the capacity to defend oneself.
A_Wanderer said:And I say that there is a distinction between a case where the intelligence says that there is a terrorist hiding out in a house shared by a family and then launching a missile strike versus a situation where the information says that there isn't a family in the building.
You insist that it is detatched and bizare, could you elaborate?
The investigation of the March 15 attack in Ishaqi concluded the U.S. troops followed normal procedures in raising the level of force as they came under attack upon approaching a building where they believed an al-Qaida terrorist was hiding, said Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, a U.S military spokesman.
Caldwell also acknowledged there were “possibly up to nine collateral deaths” in addition to the four Iraqi deaths that the military announced at the time of the raid.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Defend? You do realize this was a war of choice and we went in there unprovoked? I hope you realize this.
Rono said:Good that he is gone but i have heard that he is responsable for about 10 % of the attacks. The fact that he was fighting in person also make me think that he was expecting to be killed one day so i guess new leaders are already in place.
phanan said:
I find the reaction from Nick Berg's father quite interesting. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, but still curious.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/08/berg.interview/index.html
U2DMfan said:
Uh, of course I realize that. Did you miss the context of the discussion or do you assert that all of this killing is murder because of the politics that got us into the war?
I am only talking about soldiers having the right to defend themselves by killing those trying to kill them. Not the US defending itself against the wrath of Sadaam's tin can army.
maycocksean said:
War is serious buisness--necessary business, sometimes-- and it should be approached with solemnity due to the fact that we're dealing with taking human lives. This war in Iraq, was, I believe unnecessary and has done more harm than good, but now that we are there we really have to finish what we started. And if that means killing one of the most dangerous leaders of the insurgency than so be it. But to whoop and holler about it, to me shows a certain amount of ignorance about the nature of war and the toll it takes not just on the dead but those who survive it.
War is ugly, fucked up buisness, and it should never be entered into lightly.