Elvis
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
everyone in this thread may not be who they appear to be.
everything you know is wrong.
lol.
everything you know is wrong.
lol.
Danospano said:Bubba:
I think we agree on the fact that the Bible is full of metaphors. (That's good!). The original question I believe had something to do with how we rationalize the difference between what evolution/science tells us and what the Bible tells us. As a Christian, a person is professing a belief in the Bible. That it is God's word, right? My objection to the entire debate over time and the origin of our species lies in the fact that nobody with any sense should trust the authors of the Bible. Those men were human, just as you and I....even just like some unsavory characters like Osama Bin Laden, George W. Bush, Orpah, you name it (LOL)....Okay let's not get off the point. What I dislike about the bible or the Koran or any piece of faith-based literature is that it was written by a species that will alter history, distort reality, and flat out lie in order to exert power and influence over other people.
I don't know the truth. But I have learned the nature of human beings and I'm not going to have blind faith in a book that was written by "men" over 2000 years ago. It may contain facts, but I'm in no place to begin choosing what's real and what's made up.
That's my objection.
I'd also like to add that I don't question the power of God to have an impact or influence on humans. I believe that honest, charitable people can speak to God. I really do. I don't, however, intend to do whatever they tell me just because they "spoke to God the other night".
Here's a question from Bubba and everyone else: If someone came before you tomorrow and said they spoke to God the other night and were told to kill 15 dogs, 17 cats, and all the birds in the neighborhood, would you laugh at him, call the police, or help him with his "assignment"?
You know where I'm going, so I won't explain the point of the question. Humans wrote the bible. That's a fact. The Catholic Church as well as other houses of worship have altered and censored portions of the original scripture because it didn't fit in with their agenda. That's a fact. With this fact in particular, I find it hard to believe in it's entirity. Believing in a God, sure, but the Bible is another question.
diamond said:
I ve read countless books. I have a library full of books:idea:
Peace
Out
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Elvis said:I've often wondered what a mistranslation of the old testament would lead to...
oh that's right... the new testament.
Some people here, while they claim knowledge on specific things... they LACK knowledge on the basis of the knowledge they claim.. there is much mininsformation going around... and it has been for thousands of years.
rafmed said:First I have to say that I respect the freedom of everyone to believe in teh religion they chose, and that this most be respected from any point of view.
Now going to some of what I have read here, its pretty obvious that even for those that claim that the scriptures were passed from God to HUMANS, is clear that HUMANS are the ones that has been responsible to chose what they want to believe of this, or translate it or what they chose should be in the bible and what not, the reasons can be diferent, but those were HUMAN apreciations and HUMAN decitions, HUMANS created churchs, I'm sorry for my lack of confidence, but who can tell us all this people that had to make this choices are all blessed with wisdom from God, in that case, from all the variations that now exist of the cult to God and Jesus, just to focus on these religions, not all can be right, since at many moments many have chosen to split, and create their own interpretacions, now is this what God wants? to divide instead of unite?
In another part Bubba ask someone to read the bible with an open mind, how can one be sure one is reading it with an open mind, can you be sure you did it? Is not posible that you read it with a biased mind to believe what you want to believe? who gave you the unmistakeble certain that u had an open mind? God blessed u with that? I'm not stating that u are wrong in your beliefs, but to disqualify someone, is so easy.
diamond said:Im sticking w The Ply-Doh Doctrine.
Thank you
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Mrs. Edge said:Speaking of evolution.....this is quite topical! From today's Toronto Star:
Skull deepens evolution riddle
It's been pushed back another million years by Chad discovery
Experts say it provides convincing evidence that man's evolution from the apes is much more complicated than once thought.
"Missing links simply don't exist. They're fool's gold and we should stop talking about them," said Daniel Lieberman, a Harvard University anthropologist.
Lieberman, one of a handful of experts who have had a chance to examine the fossilized cranium, was referring to a 19th century theory, pegged to Charles Darwin, that there was a hypothetical creature, or "missing link," between modern humans and their anthropoid ancestors.
Instead, the latest discovery reinforces the view of fossil-hunters like Meave Leakey, that human evolution is more like a series of false starts, with dead ends and detours. That means some of the much-publicized hominid fossil finds of the past decade could be no more than branch lines.
"The difficulty is that things evolved more than once and some don't lead back to the supposed ancestor at all," said Bernard Wood, a paleoanthropologist from George Washington University who wrote a commentary for the journal Nature.
The fossil hunters displayed their discovery yesterday in N'Djamena, the capital of Chad.
Experts agree that the skull is a major discovery predating all other fossil evidence of hominids, Valley.
Yet Michel Brunet of the University of Poitiers, who has spent more than two decades hunting pre-human fossils west of the Rift Valley, finally found rich fossil layers in the Chadian desert in the mid-1990s.
Since then his 40-member team has uncovered thousands of fossils from prehistoric mammals, including antelopes, three-toed horses and crocodiles.
An undergraduate Chadian student found the skull.
It's unclear whether the hominid regularly walked upright..
Arun V said:now diamond
logically...
between you and me
which is more likely to be a neanderthal???
Arun V said:now diamond
logically...
between you and me
which is more likely to be a neanderthal???
drumkeeran said:
I truly love the PLAY DOH theory
diamond said:Arun-
As fars as Neandrathals..
I theorize Raf has US both BEAT
diamond said:Umm..
I choose..bachelor #3.
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