Adam, The Dinousaurs. The Creation..How do you BELIEVERS reconcile the EvolutionFolk?
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I've got your answer: The bible is basically bull shit. There you go.
If you're someone that can put unquestionable faith in a religion that claims that the bible is literally from the mouth of God, (despite the fact that it was several "men" who wrote it through their 'personal' 'contact' with this 'god'), go ahead and believe that.
How can the believers of this text rationalize the dates and the timelines? THEY CAN'T. God is all knowing and if he wrote the book (as many people claim he did), he would not make the mistake of saying 4,000 years ago, when he meant 40,000,000 years ago. We're not talking about some jerk who works at the neighborhood Wal-mart, we're talking about G-diggity, the big "G"....we're talking about GOD, people!!!!!!!!!! It's because of these inconsistecies (spelling) in the book that I don't trust ANY OF IT. And since so many religions have their own specialized, customized interpreations of this "story book" I don't bother trying to figure out which faith is more important.
If you're someone that can put unquestionable faith in a religion that claims that the bible is literally from the mouth of God, (despite the fact that it was several "men" who wrote it through their 'personal' 'contact' with this 'god'), go ahead and believe that.
How can the believers of this text rationalize the dates and the timelines? THEY CAN'T. God is all knowing and if he wrote the book (as many people claim he did), he would not make the mistake of saying 4,000 years ago, when he meant 40,000,000 years ago. We're not talking about some jerk who works at the neighborhood Wal-mart, we're talking about G-diggity, the big "G"....we're talking about GOD, people!!!!!!!!!! It's because of these inconsistecies (spelling) in the book that I don't trust ANY OF IT. And since so many religions have their own specialized, customized interpreations of this "story book" I don't bother trying to figure out which faith is more important.
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There has been whole thread dedicated to the validity of the bible...I'm too lazt to go and find it though, I even started it!!
I BY NO MEANS think the bible is bullshit...thats offensive! but I also don't think one can place 100% of their faith upon it. There as been too much subjection to biases and errors in translation/transcription for my comfort.
But again...IT'S NOT BULLSHIT!!
My history proffessor was athiest and he uses the bible as a text book for ancient history.
I BY NO MEANS think the bible is bullshit...thats offensive! but I also don't think one can place 100% of their faith upon it. There as been too much subjection to biases and errors in translation/transcription for my comfort.
But again...IT'S NOT BULLSHIT!!
My history proffessor was athiest and he uses the bible as a text book for ancient history.
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True, the Bible has a lot of valuble lessons. "The Golden Rule", etc etc.
True, maybe a big chunk of it isn't "bullshit". I'll agree with you that it provides an entertaining description of life during the the years spanning 1,000 AD to whenever it trails off with the Apocalypse.
The reason I said it was Bullshit, is due to my disbelief in the number of people who take it at face value. I honestly don't see how anyone could believe that a book would or could ever be written personally by God (as scribed by the men). I find it to be amazingly absurd that we as a society are willing to disregard major fallacies in the hopes that our FAITH won't be exposed as the lie it most certainly appears to be.
True, maybe a big chunk of it isn't "bullshit". I'll agree with you that it provides an entertaining description of life during the the years spanning 1,000 AD to whenever it trails off with the Apocalypse.
The reason I said it was Bullshit, is due to my disbelief in the number of people who take it at face value. I honestly don't see how anyone could believe that a book would or could ever be written personally by God (as scribed by the men). I find it to be amazingly absurd that we as a society are willing to disregard major fallacies in the hopes that our FAITH won't be exposed as the lie it most certainly appears to be.
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The Bible is right. Science is right.
Creation is right. PARTS of evolution are right.
The six days of creation in the Bible take place in the 16 billion years from Big Bang to now. When the big bang happened, all the matter in the universe was contained in a miniscule point. the density, gravity, and speed things moved was intense, with time moving at a ridiculous pace. The matter expanded, and time slowed down. Eventually we are at the size we are now and time is pretty much constant for this universe.
The theory of relativity shows that time is relative. Factors like speed, gravity, and mass affect how time is perceived and experienced. To make a long story short, someone looking in can experience 6 days while someone inside can experience 16 billion years. The first day spanned around 8 billion years (16b ago), the second spanned 4 (8b ago), the third 2 (4b ago), the fourth 800 million (2b ago), etc. etc. Eventually it all adds up. The really interesting thing, is that the day the Bible records plants appearing, lines up with the number of years ago that scientists say plant life appeard in the water.
This is a really bastardized version of the explanation. To get the real deal, read The Science of God by Gerald Schroeder. He presents the case from neither an atheistic or christian point of view. Using math, physics, the torah, and the kabbalah, he shows how they all work together. Check it out.
God and science work together to help us interpret the universe. If you abandon either of those two, you'll go off track.
Creation is right. PARTS of evolution are right.
The six days of creation in the Bible take place in the 16 billion years from Big Bang to now. When the big bang happened, all the matter in the universe was contained in a miniscule point. the density, gravity, and speed things moved was intense, with time moving at a ridiculous pace. The matter expanded, and time slowed down. Eventually we are at the size we are now and time is pretty much constant for this universe.
The theory of relativity shows that time is relative. Factors like speed, gravity, and mass affect how time is perceived and experienced. To make a long story short, someone looking in can experience 6 days while someone inside can experience 16 billion years. The first day spanned around 8 billion years (16b ago), the second spanned 4 (8b ago), the third 2 (4b ago), the fourth 800 million (2b ago), etc. etc. Eventually it all adds up. The really interesting thing, is that the day the Bible records plants appearing, lines up with the number of years ago that scientists say plant life appeard in the water.
This is a really bastardized version of the explanation. To get the real deal, read The Science of God by Gerald Schroeder. He presents the case from neither an atheistic or christian point of view. Using math, physics, the torah, and the kabbalah, he shows how they all work together. Check it out.
God and science work together to help us interpret the universe. If you abandon either of those two, you'll go off track.
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Dano,
If God DOES exist, what's so incredible that He would influence and inspire men to write about Him?
In my opinion, there's NOTHING incredible about the idea.
Certainly, there may be mistranslations, etc., but what that illustrates is this: once God inspired the books to be written (if that did in fact occur), the books were still subject to the same "natural" forces that cause them to become blurred over time.
What - specifically - do you object to? The fact that, taken literally, Genesis gives the age of the universe to be MUCH smaller than what we believe to be the case?
Why is it necessary that Genesis be taken literally? After all, it's certainly not an eye-witness account; we believe that God told Moses what to write.
If Christ spoke to his disciples in metaphor and parables, why couldn't God do the same to Moses?
(And I submit the following: if scientific evidence ABSOLUTELY aligned with Genesis, we would conclude that Genesis was tampered with to match the evidence. Or if the evidence was overwhelming, free will begins to slip away.)
Beyond all this, most research into the historical figure of Jesus (the central figure of the Bible) actually points to the fact that He DID exist, He WAS crucified, that His grave WAS empty, and that His followers from the very beginning asserted that He rose from the grave - and asserted it with such confidence that they were willing to DIE for that belief.
But our faith appears to be based on a lie, huh?
I demand details.
If God DOES exist, what's so incredible that He would influence and inspire men to write about Him?
In my opinion, there's NOTHING incredible about the idea.
Certainly, there may be mistranslations, etc., but what that illustrates is this: once God inspired the books to be written (if that did in fact occur), the books were still subject to the same "natural" forces that cause them to become blurred over time.
What - specifically - do you object to? The fact that, taken literally, Genesis gives the age of the universe to be MUCH smaller than what we believe to be the case?
Why is it necessary that Genesis be taken literally? After all, it's certainly not an eye-witness account; we believe that God told Moses what to write.
If Christ spoke to his disciples in metaphor and parables, why couldn't God do the same to Moses?
(And I submit the following: if scientific evidence ABSOLUTELY aligned with Genesis, we would conclude that Genesis was tampered with to match the evidence. Or if the evidence was overwhelming, free will begins to slip away.)
Beyond all this, most research into the historical figure of Jesus (the central figure of the Bible) actually points to the fact that He DID exist, He WAS crucified, that His grave WAS empty, and that His followers from the very beginning asserted that He rose from the grave - and asserted it with such confidence that they were willing to DIE for that belief.
But our faith appears to be based on a lie, huh?
I demand details.
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Danospano said:
Well I'm not going to argue with your offensive choice of terms since I believe 90% of the articles you post in FYM here on wackos are complete bull shit
But I do wonder what you think of some of the biblical prophecies that have come true.
You have obviously not had the voice in your heart yet, or you chose to ignore it because maybe you weren't ready.
For this i do not fault you personally, but i do offer you the idea that not every person of devout religious faith is represented by our very own fine examples of corruption (Oral Roberts) in Oklahoma, and the somewhat nearsighted following he has.
GOd wrote the book through men, humans who are not perfect as he is. GOD allows to do as we wish and gives us the choice to make mistakes in every aspect of our lives or trust him. This is applicable in every instance, to even the peple who translated it down through the generations into what we know of it now.
WHo is to say that 800 years then is just 80 years now? A generation, depending on what i just said could be 10-20 years, no? But what if they really lived 800 years, then a generation would be what???
SO the translation of days and years cannot really be the same as we know it now.
oh please
Well blame the publisher then!
But what say you, to the idea that we have the correct spelling to every word. And they (the authors of the bible), who came before us way before us did not??
That would be almost arrogant, no?
SO you give up on religion(s) then???
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Bubba:
I think we agree on the fact that the Bible is full of metaphors. (That's good!). The original question I believe had something to do with how we rationalize the difference between what evolution/science tells us and what the Bible tells us. As a Christian, a person is professing a belief in the Bible. That it is God's word, right? My objection to the entire debate over time and the origin of our species lies in the fact that nobody with any sense should trust the authors of the Bible. Those men were human, just as you and I....even just like some unsavory characters like Osama Bin Laden, George W. Bush, Orpah, you name it (LOL)....Okay let's not get off the point. What I dislike about the bible or the Koran or any piece of faith-based literature is that it was written by a species that will alter history, distort reality, and flat out lie in order to exert power and influence over other people.
I don't know the truth. But I have learned the nature of human beings and I'm not going to have blind faith in a book that was written by "men" over 2000 years ago. It may contain facts, but I'm in no place to begin choosing what's real and what's made up.
That's my objection.
I'd also like to add that I don't question the power of God to have an impact or influence on humans. I believe that honest, charitable people can speak to God. I really do. I don't, however, intend to do whatever they tell me just because they "spoke to God the other night".
Here's a question from Bubba and everyone else: If someone came before you tomorrow and said they spoke to God the other night and were told to kill 15 dogs, 17 cats, and all the birds in the neighborhood, would you laugh at him, call the police, or help him with his "assignment"?
You know where I'm going, so I won't explain the point of the question. Humans wrote the bible. That's a fact. The Catholic Church as well as other houses of worship have altered and censored portions of the original scripture because it didn't fit in with their agenda. That's a fact. With this fact in particular, I find it hard to believe in it's entirity. Believing in a God, sure, but the Bible is another question.
I think we agree on the fact that the Bible is full of metaphors. (That's good!). The original question I believe had something to do with how we rationalize the difference between what evolution/science tells us and what the Bible tells us. As a Christian, a person is professing a belief in the Bible. That it is God's word, right? My objection to the entire debate over time and the origin of our species lies in the fact that nobody with any sense should trust the authors of the Bible. Those men were human, just as you and I....even just like some unsavory characters like Osama Bin Laden, George W. Bush, Orpah, you name it (LOL)....Okay let's not get off the point. What I dislike about the bible or the Koran or any piece of faith-based literature is that it was written by a species that will alter history, distort reality, and flat out lie in order to exert power and influence over other people.
I don't know the truth. But I have learned the nature of human beings and I'm not going to have blind faith in a book that was written by "men" over 2000 years ago. It may contain facts, but I'm in no place to begin choosing what's real and what's made up.
That's my objection.
I'd also like to add that I don't question the power of God to have an impact or influence on humans. I believe that honest, charitable people can speak to God. I really do. I don't, however, intend to do whatever they tell me just because they "spoke to God the other night".
Here's a question from Bubba and everyone else: If someone came before you tomorrow and said they spoke to God the other night and were told to kill 15 dogs, 17 cats, and all the birds in the neighborhood, would you laugh at him, call the police, or help him with his "assignment"?
You know where I'm going, so I won't explain the point of the question. Humans wrote the bible. That's a fact. The Catholic Church as well as other houses of worship have altered and censored portions of the original scripture because it didn't fit in with their agenda. That's a fact. With this fact in particular, I find it hard to believe in it's entirity. Believing in a God, sure, but the Bible is another question.
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Iam going to take a nap.
I will be posting my theory based on many different religions..in a short while..
DB9
I will be posting my theory based on many different religions..in a short while..
DB9
now as I recall...god said let there be light on the third day
now if you dont' have light..you dont' have night and day
if you dont' have night and day..you can't have days in our sense as we believe it.
a day is only 24 hours on earth...and is based on the earths rotation...now a being independant of the earth would most certainly have a different perception of time.
Also we tend to think of time/space in terms of classical and not relatavistic mechanics.... when the big bang occured...classical mechanics does not apply
Bottom line...if you think that the 6 days in the bible means 144 hours. or that some fool in scottsdale is somehow going to figure it all out.....you prolly ate paint chips as a child
now if you dont' have light..you dont' have night and day
if you dont' have night and day..you can't have days in our sense as we believe it.
a day is only 24 hours on earth...and is based on the earths rotation...now a being independant of the earth would most certainly have a different perception of time.
Also we tend to think of time/space in terms of classical and not relatavistic mechanics.... when the big bang occured...classical mechanics does not apply
Bottom line...if you think that the 6 days in the bible means 144 hours. or that some fool in scottsdale is somehow going to figure it all out.....you prolly ate paint chips as a child
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I ve studied the major religions of the world.
I ve read countless religous books. I have a library full of books:idea:
I ve read The KJV of the Bile twice cover to cover..
Here's my belief based on what I read/studied-
We are created in the literal/express image of God.:idea:
We are his children and he loves us. We are on this earth to learn and develop faith out of God's presense..like a child is sent off to school:idea:
He sent his Son down to cover the rent..ie give us (Grace).. pay the rent ( when we mess up or needed help). God knew we couldnt do it alone.
We are to follow his own Son's example..for our short comings-when needed..and if we would follow his Son's example we could live w him again someday.:idea: The Golden Rule..Commandments ect. were his Son's example.
As far as the gender of God -not important in this discussion.
When God created Earth..he didnt do it in 6 short days and kicked backed on the 7th. It took thousands of years and it was a process...
Some of the bible is to be taken literally ..some not.
You cannot take the Book of Isaiah literally, for example- heavens no.
During the Creation process..I believe God took chunks of other planets/matter..that already existed ..and clumbed them together..
These planets had longed served their purpose..and had the dinosaur bones and cave man bones were ALREADY there , in these chunks, even before Adam arrived.:idea:
Envision a child w/alot of different flavors of Playdoh Get the idea? In those pieces of Playdoh are pieces of broken toys ie -bones ..fossils.. Hes clumbping them together in his own little universe. This is what God did during the Creation
Who says God doesnt have a sense of humor? He wanted to test our faithfulness. Charles Darwin eat your heart out.
He had prophets sent down from time to time to warn his children..us thru the ages.
He even sent a Prophetess now and again..Hope this makes sense.
At a future date..I suspect a lot of you will say.."Man that DB9 was right about the Creation"..
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I ve read countless religous books. I have a library full of books:idea:
I ve read The KJV of the Bile twice cover to cover..
Here's my belief based on what I read/studied-
We are created in the literal/express image of God.:idea:
We are his children and he loves us. We are on this earth to learn and develop faith out of God's presense..like a child is sent off to school:idea:
He sent his Son down to cover the rent..ie give us (Grace).. pay the rent ( when we mess up or needed help). God knew we couldnt do it alone.
We are to follow his own Son's example..for our short comings-when needed..and if we would follow his Son's example we could live w him again someday.:idea: The Golden Rule..Commandments ect. were his Son's example.
As far as the gender of God -not important in this discussion.
When God created Earth..he didnt do it in 6 short days and kicked backed on the 7th. It took thousands of years and it was a process...
Some of the bible is to be taken literally ..some not.
You cannot take the Book of Isaiah literally, for example- heavens no.
During the Creation process..I believe God took chunks of other planets/matter..that already existed ..and clumbed them together..
These planets had longed served their purpose..and had the dinosaur bones and cave man bones were ALREADY there , in these chunks, even before Adam arrived.:idea:
Envision a child w/alot of different flavors of Playdoh
Get the idea? In those pieces of Playdoh are pieces of broken toys ie -bones ..fossils.. Hes clumbping them together in his own little universe. This is what God did during the CreationWho says God doesnt have a sense of humor?
He wanted to test our faithfulness. Charles Darwin eat your heart out.He had prophets sent down from time to time to warn his children..us thru the ages.
He even sent a Prophetess now and again..Hope this makes sense.
At a future date..I suspect a lot of you will say.."Man that DB9 was right about the Creation"..
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Arun.
Sometimes the answers are NOT as complicated as we think.:idea:..Man has complicated the truth by omitting/changing/deleting histories to control us thru out the ages.. ..:idea
And I have PROOF God has a sense of humor..ie Can YOU say "Hamilton"?
DB9
Sometimes the answers are NOT as complicated as we think.:idea:..Man has complicated the truth by omitting/changing/deleting histories to control us thru out the ages.. ..:idea
And I have PROOF God has a sense of humor..ie Can YOU say "Hamilton"?
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Arun V said:
Arun,
Come on now
that was worth the wait
Diamond,
I like it
I never thought about the "clumping together of other planets" before. It is a different prospective then I have heard before.
Mrs. Edge
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I would just like to thank diamond for giving me the best laugh I've had in I don't know how long....that bit about the playdough....I laughed until the tears poured down my cheeks! 
I think he is very creative!!!
When I was but a tween, I took classical guitar lessons from a heavy duty born again Christian (former boyfriend of my sister the wiccan btw), who believed that cavemen and dinosaurs NEVER existed.
I was a budding biologist/scientist (one of my fave movies is still Quest For Fire), and a rather argumentative whippersnapper (I still am). We would argue by the HOUR on this topic. I never got any work done....if only my parents knew what happened to all their money......but eventually I learned the Presto from Bach's Italian Concierto...
I think he is very creative!!!When I was but a tween, I took classical guitar lessons from a heavy duty born again Christian (former boyfriend of my sister the wiccan btw), who believed that cavemen and dinosaurs NEVER existed.
I was a budding biologist/scientist (one of my fave movies is still Quest For Fire), and a rather argumentative whippersnapper (I still am). We would argue by the HOUR on this topic. I never got any work done....if only my parents knew what happened to all their money......but eventually I learned the Presto from Bach's Italian Concierto...
z edge
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Arun V said:
The way I understood it is he took planets that were lifeless and "already served their purpose" to form one, earth. I don't rule this impossible since I have heard theories about planets forming from all different types of things.
Apparently, they had already lived on another planet and their bones were in the matter that came together that formed earth.
THus, not being created solely for earth, but having already lived their life they were just in the mix of the remains.
Well this is Diamonds theory, so I will not touch this one
in this case the earth would ahve to have formed long after the big bang.
now if that's the case...why do the same stratifications that gave us fossils from long ago still occur today???
the answer is because the earth is dynamic..always has been always will be.
I'm well aware that science has limitations
it doesn't mean you can make stuff up though. may make a good bedtime story for a child...but they outgrow it when they reach the age of 3-4 months
also there are species on the planet today that are older than dinosaurs...how can they be older if the earth is made up from spare parts? If they coexisted..god would have to have living creatures on the planets on the supposedly defunct planets he used.
now if that's the case...why do the same stratifications that gave us fossils from long ago still occur today???
the answer is because the earth is dynamic..always has been always will be.
I'm well aware that science has limitations
it doesn't mean you can make stuff up though. may make a good bedtime story for a child...but they outgrow it when they reach the age of 3-4 months
also there are species on the planet today that are older than dinosaurs...how can they be older if the earth is made up from spare parts? If they coexisted..god would have to have living creatures on the planets on the supposedly defunct planets he used.
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Danospano said:
If the species known as "the early disciples and apostles of Christ" fabricated the New Testament in order to exert power and influence over other people, they seem to have failed in one important respect:
Many of them were killed because of their faith.
I would probably spend a good portion of time questioning why God would want me to do such a thing, and then I probably wouldn't do it, unless I could demonstrate that those dogs had rabies or something.
But I have friends who said they spoke to God the other night and were told to spend the summer as missionaries in China and the Philippines and obeyed.
And this fella named Jesus was told to submit himself to a rather slow and painful death upon a tree so that somehow a bunch of sinners could be saved from eternal death, and he obeyed.
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rafmed
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Why should we worry about the creation?
Why bother us with the mysteries of universe?
Why wonder if God inspired men to write the bible?
Why don't we just bring all the questions of mankind to Diamond?
It seems that some higher power is giving him the answers, and, as he say, we all just have to wait and see how he will, one day, prove him right.
Thank you Diamond, for the biggest laugh I has had in years!
I'm not a religious man, even I was raised as a catholic, you my man, you give the people that believe in God, in Christ, a bad name.
You have just destroyed the work of thousands of cientist that gave their life to understand our origins.
In a way, what surprice me more is how is posible that some even defend your "theory", someone should explain that any theory should have some background.
I'm sorry Diamond, but I challenge everyone to make me believe that your theory is not the biggest piece of crap ever writen in this forum.
Why bother us with the mysteries of universe?
Why wonder if God inspired men to write the bible?
Why don't we just bring all the questions of mankind to Diamond?
It seems that some higher power is giving him the answers, and, as he say, we all just have to wait and see how he will, one day, prove him right.
Thank you Diamond, for the biggest laugh I has had in years!
I'm not a religious man, even I was raised as a catholic, you my man, you give the people that believe in God, in Christ, a bad name.
You have just destroyed the work of thousands of cientist that gave their life to understand our origins.
In a way, what surprice me more is how is posible that some even defend your "theory", someone should explain that any theory should have some background.
I'm sorry Diamond, but I challenge everyone to make me believe that your theory is not the biggest piece of crap ever writen in this forum.
Mr. MacPhisto
Elvis ate America before America ate him
If you're all so interested in god...
perhaps you should read the pre-genesis stories...
It's pathetic that more people don't know the stories of Uriel, or the reason 'god' tried to make a contract with Noah...
Dark is light, and light is dark... language was once intended on making humans more stupid... I think it's worked.
Ah... the fallen angels...
We rule everything.
perhaps you should read the pre-genesis stories...
It's pathetic that more people don't know the stories of Uriel, or the reason 'god' tried to make a contract with Noah...
Dark is light, and light is dark... language was once intended on making humans more stupid... I think it's worked.
Ah... the fallen angels...
We rule everything.
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Thats ok for those feel the need to scoff.
It really is..:idea:
Im comfortable w my research pulling it from all areas including modern science , YES MODERN SCIENCE.. which most SCIENTISTS ALWAYS SAY their research is a THEORY..
Yes their theories are THEORIES..even the "Big Bang Theory" is THEORY.
Just REMEMBER that..Science is always growing too. Sometimes scientists change there therories as MORE information becomes available ..nice.
Didnt scientists used to think the Earth was flat?
Question-
Do Catholics believe in The Golden Rule Raf?
Thanks
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It really is..:idea:
Im comfortable w my research pulling it from all areas including modern science , YES MODERN SCIENCE.. which most SCIENTISTS ALWAYS SAY their research is a THEORY..
Yes their theories are THEORIES..even the "Big Bang Theory" is THEORY.
Just REMEMBER that..Science is always growing too. Sometimes scientists change there therories as MORE information becomes available ..nice.Didnt scientists used to think the Earth was flat?
Question-
Do Catholics believe in The Golden Rule Raf?
Thanks
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Elvis-Mr. MacPhisto said:If you're all so interested in god...
perhaps you should read the pre-genesis stories...
It's pathetic that more people don't know the stories of Uriel, or the reason 'god' tried to make a contract with Noah...
Dark is light, and light is dark... language was once intended on making humans more stupid... I think it's worked.
Ah... the fallen angels...
We rule everything.
Do you know who Lillith was? btw? She preceded Eve?
I hear she was prettier and smarter than Hello Angel
Arun-
I will put my faith in Einstein's Creator before Einstein himself:idea:
Word:idea:
DB9
you know what???
I am buying the play doh theory
if ppl believe the earth is 6000 years old...it might as well be made in the play doh theory actually....it's less ridiculous than the conservative creationist theory
*is converted to the gospel of db9
the doubting thomas has come full circle
I am buying the play doh theory
if ppl believe the earth is 6000 years old...it might as well be made in the play doh theory actually....it's less ridiculous than the conservative creationist theory
*is converted to the gospel of db9
the doubting thomas has come full circle
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