|09-01-2002, 11:18 AM||#21|
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Hi Danospano – what’s your opinion of ES ? Would you have liked to seen it on the album ? What’s your opinion of ATYCLB – its track order – its songs ? Are there songs you skip or change the order?__________________
Did you see the thread “why I think ATYCLB sucks the big one” and the other threads last month where there was a lot of bashing mixed in with constructive criticism of ATYCLB ? My attempt with this thread is to enable a more positive discussion of the album. Most of us have CD-R burners or tape decks or have access to family and friends that do. Instead of skipping songs or adjusting the play list we have the ability to create version that we prefer.
I never stated that I hate the album or any of songs. One way I look at it is that one I’m presenting here may be a version that I play at the beginning of the day. It has more “energy” to get going in the morning. Next I might take some of songs left over – B-Sides – and some songs from the side projects during the recording sessions of the album and during the Elevation Tour and make a second version. It could be a “quieter” for a relaxing drive home in the evenings.
Sometimes it may be possible to gain a new appreciation for particular song by placing in a different place. We are all aware that Stuck is about Michael Hutchence’s suicide. In the past I played the song Stateless and the duet between Hutchence and Bono Slide Away before Stuck and followed by New York. The despair of Stateless and the anguish of Slide Away gave me a new appreciation for the pain of Stuck and the “mid-life crisis” of New York.
There may be some people who would create a version of ATYCLB that included the Walk On from the Tribute To The Heroes CD. It does not necessarily mean that they hate or don’t like the album version. Some fans may have not listened to album for awhile and this discussion may inspire some to make a version that causes a new enjoyment of it.
In the future I can see U2 releasing box sets with all sorts of songs that we haven’t heard. I imagine it will be accompanied with extensive liner notes where the band members will comment on songs that were going to make it on to a particular album and songs that were going to be dropped. It does not mean that a different perspective on album is a bashing of it. I think it will be exciting and challenging. Are you familiar with the JT Double Album Theory ? In interviews Bono and The Edge stated that they were seriously considered releasing it as a double album. Bono said that With Or Without You doesn’t make sense without Luminous Times and Walk To The Water and that the Sweetest Thing is meant to follow Trip Through Your Wires. In the book Into The Heart it relates how near the end Trip Through Your Wires replaced Heartland. Does all of this mean that U2 were dissatisfied and dislike JT and that we should to ? No. But we can make a CD-R or a tape in which we acquire a new and different perspective and pleasure of it.
Hi Pinkfloyd – in a number of interviews around the release of The Million Dollar Hotel Soundtrack Bono stated that TGBHF and Stateless were meant for ATYCLB but they felt it already had too many slow songs (which may explain the inclusion of New York instead for example – a more rocking song). In the book Into The Heart Daniel Lanois stated that Falling At Your Feet was seriously considered for ATYCLB. As for not musically fitting – ATYCLB already is quite a diverse album of styles – Beautiful Day (a mix of U2’s 90s sound with The Edge’s early 80s sound) – Elevation (in the past many fans commented on how it could have fit on POP) – In A Little While and Stuck In A Moment (many have commented on their 60s Motown feel) – Wild Honey (many have commented on how it sounds like a Beatles or Beach Boys tune) – etc. If anything TGBHF has more in common musically (power ballads) with Kite and When I Look At The World than let’s say Wild Honey.
Hi David – I don’t believe NShaik’s or my track order in any way resembles a comparison to POP. I can see a connection with Elevation and in the case of NShaik’s inclusion of Big Girls Are Best. The credits for it list the same producers and engineers from the POP sessions so that one is rather obvious.
Some additional tweaking to my presentation :
It’s been 2 years since the release of ATYCLB and we had the time for the album to thoroughly sink in. We have seen and heard the songs transformed in concerts. We have heard all the B-Sides. Seen the videos and Elevation Live From Boston. Would U2 fans like to tweak the album in any way ? There has been some criticism of ATYCLB for its track order such as Stuck In A Moment being the second song. The original track order was :
Stuck In A Moment
Peace On Earth
In A Little While
When I Look At The World
Some people feel that the album has too many slow paced and mid tempo songs. Now we have Electrical Storm. People have commented on how in a way it sounds like Summer Rain let loose. Others have pointed out some similarities to Walk On (“Let's see colours that have never been seen - Let's go to places no one else has been”). Would people like to have seen Electrical Storm on ATYCLB ? And how would people make some other changes ? Do people prefer the single versions of Elevation and Walk On over the album versions ? In a number of interviews around the release of The Million Dollar Hotel Soundtrack Bono stated that TGBHF and Stateless were meant for ATYCLB but they felt it already had too many slow songs (which may explain the inclusion of New York instead for example – a more rocking song). TGBHF was released on the British - Japanese and Australian versions ATYCLB though I disagree with its placement at the end of the album. In the book Into The Heart Daniel Lanois stated that Falling At Your Feet was seriously considered for ATYCLB. Falling At Your Feet has the same dual message of Grace – a love song and song about faith. People have commented on how Wild Honey sounds like a Beatles or Beach Boys song. From the same era Falling At Your Feet reminds of a Simon And Garfunkel type of sound. I find it shares in common with Grace a lullaby by type of atmosphere. Early in the recording sessions of ATYCLB Brian Eno spoke about their goal of making a joyful album. I see Always as ending the album on a more energetic and joyful note.
Elevation (The minute of the Influx Mix used to open the concerts merged with Tomb Raider Mix)
Walk On (Single Version / Nigel Goodrich)
In A Little While
The Ground Beneath Her Feet
* Stuck In A Moment ( the J Mix of album and acoustic versions)
When I Look At The World
Falling At Your Feet
* If U2 were to release a 12 song album like AB and POP
Songs Released On The Singles :
Stuck In A Moment – Wild Honey - Peace On Earth – Grace - Stateless –– Summer Rain - Big Girls Are Best – Don’t Take Your Guns To Town
I feel U2 did excellent job with their ATYCLB singles in the sense that they mixed new songs – remixes – and live songs. For the sake of dreaming – what if U2 released 4 new songs on each single (Part 1 and Part 2) with 2 B-Side songs 1 Remix or Instrumental and 1 Live song ! Hypothetically we could have gotten all these songs that could of nicely fit on 1 CD (and 1 CD of live songs and 1 CD of Remixes)
When The Stars Go Blue
Satellite Of Love (Danny Saber Remix)
Never Let Me Go (Opening narration edited out)
Big Girls Are Best
Don’t Take Your Guns To Town
Stuck In A Moment (J Mix of album and acoustic versions)
What’s Going On
Peace On Earth
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