Olympic Hockey

popkidu2 · 01-16-2002, 10:09 PM

I think it is such crap that pro players get to play in the olympics, especially hockey.

That's all I have to say about that

The Wanderer · 01-16-2002, 10:19 PM

too bad, people like myself enjoy it.

StarsnStripes · 01-17-2002, 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by The Wanderer:
too bad, people like myself enjoy it.

I like how it levels the playing field a bit... although the european teams will still take the medals

zooropamanda · 01-17-2002, 05:25 AM

Well to be honest, we dont get ice hockey in Oz and after the amount of talk Ive heard about it here, Im looking forward to watching it in the Olympics.

BabyGrace · 01-17-2002, 11:12 AM

it's a great sport but i've noticed people either love it or hate it

actually i agree popkid. it does bring the level of play up somewhat, but i still think pros shouldnt be in the Olympics

pub crawler · 01-17-2002, 11:18 AM

Yeah, I've never liked the pros playing Olympic hockey or basketball.

Hewson · 01-17-2002, 11:37 AM

Growing up in the same town as Mike Eruzione...had this rule been in effect in 1980, it would have prevented a magical time in US Olympic history. If pros had beaten the Soviets and won gold that year, it wouldn't have been as dramatic.
Let's face it...when Dream team 1 with Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan et al won the gold medal...it was not such a thrilling victory.
But the playing field needs to be level, so if some countries use pros, then all should. (I'd prefer all Olympians be required to be amateur)

speedracer · 01-17-2002, 02:23 PM

Weren't the Red Army athletic teams compensated?

zoomerang II · 01-18-2002, 08:39 AM

no they weren't professional, but of course if you won a medal you may find promotion to a lucrative rank rather easy, or sponsorship, or whatever else.
The olympic ideal of amateurism became untenable.

Better that they get rid of sports like football, baseball, basketball, tennis and ice hockey that don't need the olympics to be the epitomy of the sport itself.

And don't even get me started about synchronised swimming or beach volleyball.

kobayashi · 01-18-2002, 08:44 AM

hockey, basketball, tennis and all the other olympic sports that choose to involve their athletes should, under their own recgnicance, pull out.

i fail to understand why more governing bodies of sport don't follow the lead of soccer and institute a world cup style tournament.

besides tennis, which i don't know much about, both hockey and basketball, have in recent years staged successful world championships. i guess the olympic platform is easy publicity on the world stage for a league. a properly marketed and well timed world championship could serve the purpose just as well, especially if played at the right time of year.

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speedracer · 01-18-2002, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by kobayashi:

i fail to understand why more governing bodies of sport don't follow the lead of soccer and institute a world cup style tournament.

Basketball does have world championships. Nobody cares.

zoomerang II · 01-18-2002, 09:57 AM

yeah cause it's not a world championship. Same in baseball.

Tennis has the grand slam i guess which works well - the olympics will never be the same as winning a grand slam or the grand slam cup.

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Foxxern · 01-18-2002, 12:05 PM

Baseball could and should implement a World Cup-type championship. It wouldn't be on the same level as the FIFA World Cup, but there are certainly countries who would be interested.

USA
Japan
Canada
S. Korea
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Mexico
Taiwan
Colombia
Venezuela
Nicaragua
Panama
Australia
Puerto Rico (not technically separate from the US though)
Holland
Italy (the 2 Euro nations with pro baseball systems)

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Foxxern Refugee Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 1,284 Local Time: 02:42 PM	Baseball could and should implement a World Cup-type championship. It wouldn't be on the same level as the FIFA World Cup, but there are certainly countries who would be interested. USA Japan Canada S. Korea Cuba Dominican Republic Mexico Taiwan Colombia Venezuela Nicaragua Panama Australia Puerto Rico (not technically separate from the US though) Holland Italy (the 2 Euro nations with pro baseball systems) ------------------ Change is the only constant [This message has been edited by Foxxern (edited 01-18-2002).] __________________

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01-17-2002, 05:25 AM	#4
zooropamanda Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Smile, you're reading my post Posts: 6,515 Local Time: 06:42 AM	Well to be honest, we dont get ice hockey in Oz and after the amount of talk Ive heard about it here, Im looking forward to watching it in the Olympics.

01-17-2002, 11:12 AM	#5
BabyGrace Refugee Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: even NJ loves NY Posts: 2,095 Local Time: 03:42 PM	it's a great sport but i've noticed people either love it or hate it actually i agree popkid. it does bring the level of play up somewhat, but i still think pros shouldnt be in the Olympics

01-17-2002, 11:18 AM	#6
pub crawler New Yorker Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA USA Posts: 2,551 Local Time: 01:42 PM	Yeah, I've never liked the pros playing Olympic hockey or basketball.

01-17-2002, 11:37 AM	#7
Hewson Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Your own private Idaho Posts: 34,615 Local Time: 03:42 PM	Growing up in the same town as Mike Eruzione...had this rule been in effect in 1980, it would have prevented a magical time in US Olympic history. If pros had beaten the Soviets and won gold that year, it wouldn't have been as dramatic. Let's face it...when Dream team 1 with Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan et al won the gold medal...it was not such a thrilling victory. But the playing field needs to be level, so if some countries use pros, then all should. (I'd prefer all Olympians be required to be amateur)

01-17-2002, 02:23 PM	#8
speedracer Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 7,604 Local Time: 04:42 PM	Weren't the Red Army athletic teams compensated?

01-18-2002, 08:39 AM	#9
zoomerang II War Child Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: melbourne, terra australis Posts: 657 Local Time: 07:42 AM	no they weren't professional, but of course if you won a medal you may find promotion to a lucrative rank rather easy, or sponsorship, or whatever else. The olympic ideal of amateurism became untenable. Better that they get rid of sports like football, baseball, basketball, tennis and ice hockey that don't need the olympics to be the epitomy of the sport itself. And don't even get me started about synchronised swimming or beach volleyball.

01-18-2002, 08:44 AM	#10
kobayashi Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: the ether Posts: 5,142 Local Time: 04:42 PM	hockey, basketball, tennis and all the other olympic sports that choose to involve their athletes should, under their own recgnicance, pull out. i fail to understand why more governing bodies of sport don't follow the lead of soccer and institute a world cup style tournament. besides tennis, which i don't know much about, both hockey and basketball, have in recent years staged successful world championships. i guess the olympic platform is easy publicity on the world stage for a league. a properly marketed and well timed world championship could serve the purpose just as well, especially if played at the right time of year. ------------------ one cannot be betrayed if one has no people.

01-18-2002, 09:57 AM	#12
zoomerang II War Child Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: melbourne, terra australis Posts: 657 Local Time: 07:42 AM	yeah cause it's not a world championship. Same in baseball. Tennis has the grand slam i guess which works well - the olympics will never be the same as winning a grand slam or the grand slam cup. ------------------ In the stillness of the evening When the sun has had its day I heard your voice whispering...