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Old 07-02-2005, 01:37 PM   #21
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Too bad he didn't go into his solution for the ancient aliens living in his body...
$380K worth of auditing should do it!
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well seeing tom cruise would never dip his pen in the ink to actually understand what its like to have a wife with depression from childbirth then he should shut his big 'my mouth has twice as many teeth as everyone else' FACE and piss off.


go back to brainwashing some more people and get your sneakers and kool aid ready. freak.
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But isnt there some other solution then taking drugs to defeat this? Maybe not just vitamins and excercise,(which was wrong to say) but I do not think that drugs is the answer for depression, theres got to be another way around it, so Cruise has a little point, you think?
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But isnt there some other solution then taking drugs to defeat this? Maybe not just vitamins and excercise,(which was wrong to say) but I do not think that drugs is the answer for depression, theres got to be another way around it, so Cruise has a little point, you think?
The idea that depression (or any other mental illness) should not be treated with drugs (that's not to say they are the ONLY way), is very odd to me. Very few people are going to tell the heart patient "don't take digitalis because it's a poison" (which it is), but they have no problem telling someone with a mental illness that there must be some other way.

Yes, antidepressants and other meds for mental illness can be dangerous or fatal if taken incorrectly or by the wrong person, but so can digitalis (and damn near every other durg or even food known). But if taken correctly, by the right person, antidepressants, like digitalis (which helped not only keep my mum alive for decades, but also helped her to have a fine quality of life), can be absolute lifesavers.
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But isnt there some other solution then taking drugs to defeat this? Maybe not just vitamins and excercise,(which was wrong to say) but I do not think that drugs is the answer for depression, theres got to be another way around it, so Cruise has a little point, you think?
What voodoo curse is strong enough to beat the extremely strong effects of post partum depression? What Easter Island statue dance can ward off the imbalance making many women want to kill themselves?

Look, I should not be so flippant here. Sorry. But mate, there is no other option currently. Tom Cruise has no point. Vitamins are a ridiculous answer to this form of depression. I can't speak for other forms, so he might have a point there, I dont know. I do know postpartum depression personally, and taking a handful of Centrum every morning would not have saved me. Ever had your little baby strapped into a car seat, pulled up at yet another set of lights and thought (yet again) 'what if I didn't brake...' while contemplating the D-Double truck in front of you? I'm not after sympathy, please dont get me wrong. Knowledge would be a most excellent bonus. My depression did it's best to ruin my marriage (we've since begun the recovery of that), it nearly killed me, and it robbed me of many months of bonding with my daughter. The effects it has are immense. It has far reaching consequences. Drugs aren't a good choice, no one wishes to seek them out; but everyone, don't fuck around with it. Take the drugs, get help, find the want to live again. Tom Cruise is a fucking nutcase. I implore anyone out there to ignore his ridiculous beliefs. This condition is too strong to be helped by much else other than drugs which are designed to help you simply get back on track, and counselling.
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But isnt there some other solution then taking drugs to defeat this? Maybe not just vitamins and excercise,(which was wrong to say) but I do not think that drugs is the answer for depression, theres got to be another way around it, so Cruise has a little point, you think?
Having known someone who is a manic/depressive I totally disagee. Medicaton helps make life "liveable."

I applaud Brooke for talking about her depression. Mental illness is too often treated as a taboo subject.
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counseling helps alot; that should probably be the first thing someone should try if depressed.


....and tom cruise sucks.
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What voodoo curse is strong enough to beat the extremely strong effects of post partum depression? What Easter Island statue dance can ward off the imbalance making many women want to kill themselves?

Look, I should not be so flippant here. Sorry. But mate, there is no other option currently. Tom Cruise has no point. Vitamins are a ridiculous answer to this form of depression. I can't speak for other forms, so he might have a point there, I dont know. I do know postpartum depression personally, and taking a handful of Centrum every morning would not have saved me. Ever had your little baby strapped into a car seat, pulled up at yet another set of lights and thought (yet again) 'what if I didn't brake...' while contemplating the D-Double truck in front of you? I'm not after sympathy, please dont get me wrong. Knowledge would be a most excellent bonus. My depression did it's best to ruin my marriage (we've since begun the recovery of that), it nearly killed me, and it robbed me of many months of bonding with my daughter. The effects it has are immense. It has far reaching consequences. Drugs aren't a good choice, no one wishes to seek them out; but everyone, don't fuck around with it. Take the drugs, get help, find the want to live again. Tom Cruise is a fucking nutcase. I implore anyone out there to ignore his ridiculous beliefs. This condition is too strong to be helped by much else other than drugs which are designed to help you simply get back on track, and counselling.

Angela Harlem Could you e-mail me? I'm assuming being a premium member you can get my addy If not let me know.

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Angela Harlem, thank you for your candid response, and many hugs to you for being so honest. Your experience with postpartum depression echoes my own experience I had 7 years ago to a "t". Mine lasted for well over a year, and I am ashamed now to admit it - but I thought I was strong enough to beat the depression and keep it to myself, bottled up inside. I have never been so wrong about anything in my entire life.

During that time, I watched a lot of daytime talkshows, like the ones Tom Cruise appears on. It sounds silly, but in my fragile state I became addicted to them, it was like I trying to find answers and tried to take what those talkshows said as gospel. I really thought they were there to help me see the world from a different perspective and in turn, make me feel better about myself. I think by design (and clever scheduling) many of those shows prey on mainly women who are in a vulnerable state like I was. Mothers, and those who are unemployed for whatever reason whether they are simply out of work or are too sick to work. Some shows are crapfests like the Jenny Jones ones I tuned into all those years ago... yet some others, yes even the reputable Orpah, I'm sorry to say are paved to hell with the best of intentions. There is an agenda and I can only say through my observations that being exposed to those shows on a constant basis like I was do a lot more harm than good. Tom Cruise knows his audience and when they are watching. He knows that chances are, a good portion of people tuning into Oprah have probably just settled their babies down for their afternoon nap. That's why he's saying the things he's saying, he knows his audience. His ideas are dangerous and this makes him a dangerous man because he's a celebrity and people *will* listen to him and take his word as gospel. I'm not too proud to admit that if I heard him babbling when I was at the peak of my depression, I might have taken his word for it. He is preying on women in a vulnerable state.

And it makes me sick.
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Tom Cruise's reply to this:

BROOKE SHIELDS KNOWS NOTHING!!!!

I KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION THAN HER. I'VE EXPERIENCED IT AND SHE HASN'T!

YOU'RE ALL JERKS!!!
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Tom Cruise should just keep grinning that big grin of his...cos whenever he opens his mouth the contents of his brainwashed and deluded mind spill out. Go play with your cult friends Tom.

thanks Angela Harlem and adam's mistress for sharing that, and good for Brooke too.
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Do you think Tom Cruise looks in the mirror every day and says


"DAMN I AM GOOD-LOOKING. I MEAN, I AM REALLY GOOD-LUCKING."



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Do you think Tom Cruise looks in the mirror every day and says


"DAMN I AM GOOD-LOOKING. I MEAN, I AM REALLY GOOD-LUCKING."



Why not? After all he's delusional about other things, so why not that also?
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adam's_mistress, I'm really sorry to hear about what you went through. I cant imagine how it would have felt once you started to realise what you once sought for confirmation and support was actually making it worse. I've always thought of those shows as being for stay at home mums who were on a break from the housework or whatever while their babies napped, who just wanted some gossip or time out, or to see some people living worse than they - to feel better, kind of thing. His being in a position where he could reach opthers who were in that situation you were, is worrying. I cant say enough how much it distresses me to think there are some out there who might be going through this and will be thinking they have just found the answer through his misguided preaching. It makes me more grateful that someone like Brooke Shields is able to speak out. I admire her for it and hope she continues to do so.
Hugs to you too, and thank you for replying. It's both reassuring and also saddening to know this happens to others.

redkat, I'm not able to access your email through your profile. If you'd like to take mine it is anna dot maher at gmail dot com. I'm a little paranoid about bots stealing my addy lol, so sorry for writing it like that. I hope to hear from you soon
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http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room174.html
Scroll down to 'Short overview of Lisa's tragic death'

The Staff notes while Lisa was held
http://www.whyaretheydead.net/lisa_m...logs/lisam.htm

This is the Co$ idea of helping people with mental illness.
Not to get them medical help, but this.

Tom Cruise is a fucking freak.
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oooh i read about that, there s a whole bunch of dark secrets..i am now convinced it is nothing but a cult


and my favorite sister and her fiancee are scientologists
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oooh i read about that, there s a whole bunch of dark secrets..i am now convinced it is nothing but a cult


and my favorite sister and her fiancee are scientologists
yeah it is a cult. check out this site:

http://www.xenu.net/

i hope that's helpful...not trying to freak you out or anything, but it's seriously bad news. i would scope around this site and the internet to see what you can do to help your sister.
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Tom cruise is a daft

Nicely done, Brooke
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