NFL Thread III

[mikal]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

The Packers D is #3 in the league. Nobody is arguing that. The statistics you shared do not “support” that claim. It’s not an opinion that they’re #3 in the league. It’s a fact.

The statistics you shared are a cheap attempt at suggesting the Packers are giant slayers and have suppressed otherwise highly performing QBs. You’re hell bent on this “it’s simple statistics” thing. I don’t care who bats above .300 with RISP on a midsummer Tuesday where the temperature is below 80 degrees. It’s an unnecessary claim that lacks nuance for “why” the numbers are what they are.

The @Packers defense faced Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson over the past three weeks.

Their *combined* stats: 62-of-110 (56.3%), 601 yards, 1 total TD, 4 INT.

That's championship level play.


Holding opposing QB's to 601 yards, 1 TD, and 4 INT's during a 3 week span is championship level play. Having the #3 ranked defense is also an ingredient for a potential championship. It's really that simple, lol.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by mikal

The @Packers defense faced Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson over the past three weeks.

Their *combined* stats: 62-of-110 (56.3%), 601 yards, 1 total TD, 4 INT.

That's championship level play.


Holding opposing QB's to 601 yards, 1 TD, and 4 INT's during a 3 week span is championship level play. Having the #3 ranked defense is also an ingredient for a potential championship. It's really that simple, lol.

You know there's absolutely nothing you can say that's going to change the discourse in this conversation. It's not worth it, man.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by mikal

The @Packers defense faced Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson over the past three weeks.



Their *combined* stats: 62-of-110 (56.3%), 601 yards, 1 total TD, 4 INT.



That's championship level play.





Holding opposing QB's to 601 yards, 1 TD, and 4 INT's during a 3 week span is championship level play. Having the #3 ranked defense is also an ingredient for a potential championship. It's really that simple, lol.

I really think we’re beating this to death here. If you can’t see that the tweet clearly calls out those quarterbacks by name, that’s fine. If you don’t think that tweet is unnecessarily lumping Kyler Murray in with two clearly worse performances, that’s fine too. If you think the Packers are why Mahommes and Wilson were so off, great. Think whatever you want.

[mikal]

Originally Posted by bono_212

You know there's absolutely nothing you can say that's going to change the discourse in this conversation. It's not worth it, man.

LOL so true. I don't know how this is even a conversation.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by bono_212

You know there's absolutely nothing you can say that's going to change the discourse in this conversation. It's not worth it, man.

God damn do you just exist here to put me down? Like holy shit, year after year, always in the background doing shit like this. Fucking toxic.

[mikal]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I really think we’re beating this to death here. If you can’t see that the tweet clearly calls out those quarterbacks by name, that’s fine. If you don’t think that tweet is unnecessarily lumping Kyler Murray in with two clearly worse performances, that’s fine too. If you think the Packers are why Mahommes and Wilson were so off, great. Think whatever you want.

Your whole argument doesn't make sense. You're acknowledging that the Packers have a really good defense, but then arguing that they had no impact on why Mahomes, Murray, and Wilson were so bad. This isn't Madden. In real life, great defenses affect even the best QB's.

I could get into the X's and O's, and call out the fact that the Packers are constantly creating internal pressure, which is death for QB's, especially mobile ones, or how Campbell is the top rated ILB in the league by PFF, or how the secondary is playing lights out even without the top 3 CB in the league, but nah...not worth it.

[LuckyNumber7]

Can’t respond just yet, still waiting for my tribesperson to come in and paint your character as that guy who just isn’t worth responding to because we don’t like him so I can have a laugh at how beneath me you are.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Can’t respond just yet, still waiting for my tribesperson to come in and paint your character as that guy who just isn’t worth responding to because we don’t like him so I can have a laugh at how beneath me you are.

Would you honestly say that you've ever once changed your opinion when it comes to stats when someone comes in with an argument about intangibles? If so, I'd like to see it. Otherwise, no, I don't think it's worth engaging with you on discussions like this when you dig your heels in.

[mikal]

I really didn't think my sharing of that tweet would become such a huge issue. Damn I'm so controversial!

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by bono_212

Would you honestly say that you've ever once changed your opinion when it comes to stats when someone comes in with an argument about intangibles? If so, I'd like to see it. Otherwise, no, I don't think it's worth engaging with you on discussions like this when you dig your heels in.

Do you think you’ve added anything helpful, constructive, worthwhile, appreciated, or useful to this conversation? You do realize it’s okay to have discourse and let it play out naturally, right? Like, my last comment as you came in to stir the pot was me backing off of this conversation because it was tiring.

If you don’t think it’s worth engaging, good for you. Stick to that and keep your troll-bully smug bullshit out of it.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Do you think you’ve added anything helpful, constructive, worthwhile, appreciated, or useful to this conversation? You do realize it’s okay to have discourse and let it play out naturally, right? Like, my last comment as you came in to stir the pot was me backing off of this conversation because it was tiring.

If you don’t think it’s worth engaging, good for you. Stick to that and keep your troll-bully smug bullshit out of it.

Dude, I told Mikal to back off because you and he were arguing in a circle with no clear end in sight. It happens ALL the time in here, especially when stats get involved. You aren't going to change your mind, he isn't going to change his. And there was absolutely no signs that either of you were backing off. I don't regret what I said, and I'm not bullying you as much as I also wasn't bullying Mikal, who I directly addressed.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by bono_212

Dude, I told Mikal to back off because you and he were arguing in a circle with no clear end in sight. It happens ALL the time in here, especially when stats get involved. You aren't going to change your mind, he isn't going to change his. And there was absolutely no signs that either of you were backing off. I don't regret what I said, and I'm not bullying you as much as I also wasn't bullying Mikal, who I directly addressed.

Right, and you chose to respond to him and not acknowledge you were referring to me in that post by coincidence. Because, we’re the roles reversed and you agreed with me, you’d have done the same thing to mikal, right? Right. Bully? Who, you? Never. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[LemonMelon]

Why fight about this when the Packers are just going to lose in the NFC Championship like always

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Right, and you chose to respond to him and not acknowledge you were referring to me in that post by coincidence. Because, we’re the roles reversed and you agreed with me, you’d have done the same thing to mikal, right? Right. Bully? Who, you? Never. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

I find Mikal the more likely of the two of you to back off, so I addressed him. The end.

And this is why I haven't directly engaged in conversation with you, with maybe one or two exceptions, since February. Lesson learned, I'll go back to what I was doing.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

Why fight about this when the Packers are just going to lose in the NFC Championship like always

Well exactly.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by bono_212

I find Mikal the more likely of the two of you to back off, so I addressed him. The end.

And this is why I haven't directly engaged in conversation with you, with maybe one or two exceptions, since February. Lesson learned, I'll go back to what I was doing.

You’re such a wise and good person. So above the fray. You do no harm. Yes, your message was very much so to amicably restore the order that was so desperately needed. Carefully curated to come off as a neutral party.

Put me on your ignore too, while you’re at it. I have nothing to offer you. It is I who is just unreachable, and you have nothing to answer for. You’ve just been so good all along. So much so that you’ve been taking the high road *since February*. Good lord, I don’t know how you’ve kept this facade for so long.

[mikal]

Never posting stats again, guys.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by mikal

Never posting stats again, guys.

Cool, this coming from the guy who stormed off the forum because he got repeatedly musically trivialized and bullied by the gang over his love for Biffy Clyro. To think I stood up for you. What a joke.

[mikal]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Cool, this coming from the guy who stormed off the forum because he got repeatedly musically trivialized and bullied by the gang over his love for Biffy Clyro. To think I stood up for you. What a joke.

Calm it down please. It was just a dumb back and forth that spiraled out of control and I’m just making fun of all of us (including myself) at this point. ������

I do still appreciate you having my back because the hate I got thrown my way for the Biffy Clyro was beyond unacceptable.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

Why fight about this when the Packers are just going to lose in the NFC Championship like always

Hiyoooo