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Ukraine's topless fighters plot to storm the Euros | Reuters I found this to be weird. How is running around topless supposed to protest prostitution? They're going to give football/soccer fans an eyeful, not make them think buying sex is wrong. How can you protest women being treated like meat when you reduce yourself to just a body part in the eyes of (most likely) drunk sports fans? Anyway, I thought this was funny in an odd way. And you're likely going to have the media cover these women as they protest all over Europe, and have more women around the world join them. |
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![]() Femen is spreading. They've been protesting in France, Italy and in Sweden where they protested against Islamic dress in front of the Iranian embassy. This Slate article takes a look at their growth, and their topless protests and whether it is worth it. Do Femen’s topless protests raise awareness about women’s rights or just titillate? - Slate Magazine |
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Another Arab Spring?
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I actually admire Amina for daring to do this in a Muslim country where women dress from head to toe, or certainly not like Westerners. That took guts and bravery. I hope she survives the hospital and is set free, if possible. |
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nothing to admire at all
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1050719/th...-FEM-570.jpg?6 you don't yell fire in a crowded theater bingo in community center or post nude pictures if you are in a country that has laws against it there are many things women in Tunisia are more concerned about than western style sexploitation behavior |
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You gotta start somewhere. Should Rosa had given up her seat anyway?
I agree Femen's insistence to protest while topless is counterproductive - hence JT's GIF above - but in a Muslim country, I think it is a big statement to post a topless photo of yourself with the words "My Body is My Own and Not the Source of Anyone's Honor". Maybe it is too over the top and radical for a conservative country, but ruffling feathers is usually what protestors do. |
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do not get me wrong, I think FEMEN should try and bring change to Muslim countries, this may have been a decent shot at it
these women got locked up for a couple of days in one of the more moderate Islamic States and hopefully when the sensationalism was set aside their message about acid attacks got heard and discussed If they were Turkish women there would be little notice of this and they would have simply been labeled crazy or possessed with evil spirits. If Rosa Parks had put on a bikini and went to a whites only country club and jumped in the pool she would be unknown. Rosa Parks took a measured step to make progress, the same could be said for Jackie Robinson as he abided by Jim Crow laws when he was the first black player in baseball. Amina could have done something to help women in her country, instead she has given ammunition to the people that say the West wants to debase women to sexual objects. I did not respond to the Slate article because I think FEMEM is a mixed bag. In the West and Europe after they get everybody looking at their hot little bodies, not any fatties (i mean normal women) in many of their pictures, one then looks at their cause, and hopefully considers it. |
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This I agree with, good point! All the women are slim with small breasts. Why not have more diversity in terms of body shapes?
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Putin's face says it all.
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Not a good idea to encourage Muslim women to celebrate their bodies the Western way. They see it as imperialist and Muslim women are probably more concerned if too much of their arm is showing than too much breast. FEMEN should concentrate on Western women, because Muslims have an entirely different culture. |
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I completely agree, different playing fields require different tactics
that is why I believe Amina, the 19-year-old Tunisian woman made the wrong choice. as for FEMEN, I did not even know Putin was meeting with Merkel, now this protest (stunt) and their cause gets a lot of exposure (no pun) in all the media cycles |
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Two thumbs up from Putin!
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I've researched and thought over Femen for the past few days, and so far I am leaning toward not being a big supporter of them.
I agree that a woman has the right to her own body and there is too much misogyny in the world. But their tactics seems to be more about creating chaos rather than dialogue, which is what's really needed for women's rights. They talk about destroying patriarchy but what kind of world do they envision without it? Yeah I know - no rape, no oppression of women. But what kind of role would we have then? What kind of role would men have? And that's another thing: what is Femen's attitude toward men? Are they equalists or misandrists? I've seen photos of men joining them in the topless protests or taking pictures of themselves with their topless girlfriends or wives (check Femen's website or Facebook page since the media won't show that), but what is Femen's belief about men? They don't seem to have a manifesto or anything. They claim to be keeping their major goals secret for now, but I would like to know about their attitude towards men and also motherhood. There are some radical feminists who look down at women who want to be married to men and have kids with a husband. Is Femen the same way? So I'm leaning toward not being a big fan of them. I support some of what they say and do, but it leans toward radicalism and I am against radical feminism. And I fail to see how I am a slave, as Femen claims I am. |
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This op-ed sums up my views:
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