Mars - Page 2

deep · 04-04-2013, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

While terraforming is an extreme case, I think it's selfish not to continue exploring space and pushing the boundaries. Our generation is reaping the benefits of previous ones sacrifices (going back way before space was a possibility). We have a responsibility to future generations to keep the progress moving. It's an issue bigger than the priorities of the time

I think the spin off benefits of space exploration are over estimated. I like Tang and Velcro, but I think an orange flavored drink and shoe lace replacements for grandpa were not worth the expense.

LuckyNumber7 · 04-04-2013, 02:09 AM

When you expect simply a material result, you will be disappointed.

Well, that is unless you start to consider space mining.

deep · 04-04-2013, 02:30 AM

not practical at all

people seem to think space is just the next frontier,
like habitable places on this planet that were not occupied

it would make more sense to try and live on the surface of this planet that are covered with water

Jive Turkey · 04-04-2013, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by deep

I think the spin off benefits of space exploration are over estimated. I like Tang and Velcro, but I think an orange flavored drink and shoe lace replacements for grandpa were not worth the expense.

Oh, I'm pretty sure you could rattle off a few more relevant examples if you tried

Jive Turkey · 04-04-2013, 02:35 AM

Here's a bit of a list.

NASA spin-off technologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

deep · 04-04-2013, 02:38 AM

I used to have more enthusiasm for it. But I think I was influenced by all the sci-fi stuff I like. Lately, I have been asking myself, what is the point? Once humans leave this aquarium we live in called the earth's atmosphere, we would be like a fish living on land in a wet-suit filled with water. Why would a fish want to live like that? when it could live in the ocean in a care free life.

Kieran McConville · 04-04-2013, 06:22 AM

I'm also pretty sure the expense is relatively insignificant. Put it this way, if NASA and its international brethren were shut down tomorrow, there wouldn't be any more bridges or wells getting built. There probably wouldn't even be a tax cut.

lemonfly · 04-04-2013, 06:59 AM

Isn't Dennis Tito planning on sending two people on a "flyby" of Mars in 2018? Assuming they don't die en route, they would be the first humans to look upon another planet with their own eyes. That would be a pretty momentous moment for our species. The robotic explorers are doing sterling work out there no doubt, but I hope their success doesn't contribute to human missions being placed on the backburner indefinitely.

u2popmofo · 04-04-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Nice! So weird that as I see this topic, I'm writing my thesis proposal. On terraforming Mars

Hopefully the threat of DOOM happening for real was listed as a potential "negative".

cobl04 · 04-04-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by u2popmofo

Hopefully the threat of DOOM happening for real was listed as a potential "negative".

Must...resist...Madvillain joke...

purpleoscar · 04-04-2013, 11:19 PM

Great video of Mars. It seems Earthlike but naturally more barren and poisonous.

I wonder how people can think of terraforming Mars without a molten iron core that can protect the atmosphere?

LuckyNumber7 · 04-04-2013, 11:21 PM

Human adaptation.

deep · 04-06-2013, 07:11 PM

AFP: NASA wants to tow an asteroid to the moon: senator

nielsgov · 04-07-2013, 01:51 PM

This thread has been an interesting read. Thanks guys. Space exploration fascinates me, like most people I think, but I barely know anything about it.

LuckyNumber7 · 04-07-2013, 01:53 PM

In a couple months time I'll revisit this thread if/when my thesis gets published and provide a link to a 40-50 page read for anyone willing...!

Jive Turkey · 04-07-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nielsgov

This thread has been an interesting read. Thanks guys. Space exploration fascinates me, like most people I think, but I barely know anything about it.

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

In a couple months time I'll revisit this thread if/when my thesis gets published and provide a link to a 40-50 page read for anyone willing...!

LuckyNumber7 · 02-27-2014, 03:34 PM

So here I am about a year later. I just left a successful thesis defense. My paper is due for immediate dissemination pending a couple of revisions!

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04-04-2013, 02:30 AM	#23
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,600 Local Time: 10:36 PM	not practical at all people seem to think space is just the next frontier, like habitable places on this planet that were not occupied it would make more sense to try and live on the surface of this planet that are covered with water

04-04-2013, 02:35 AM	#25
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 02:36 AM	Here's a bit of a list. NASA spin-off technologies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

04-04-2013, 02:38 AM	#26
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,600 Local Time: 10:36 PM	I used to have more enthusiasm for it. But I think I was influenced by all the sci-fi stuff I like. Lately, I have been asking myself, what is the point? Once humans leave this aquarium we live in called the earth's atmosphere, we would be like a fish living on land in a wet-suit filled with water. Why would a fish want to live like that? when it could live in the ocean in a care free life.

04-04-2013, 06:22 AM	#27
Kieran McConville ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kony Island Baby Posts: 10,244 Local Time: 04:36 PM	I'm also pretty sure the expense is relatively insignificant. Put it this way, if NASA and its international brethren were shut down tomorrow, there wouldn't be any more bridges or wells getting built. There probably wouldn't even be a tax cut.

04-04-2013, 06:59 AM	#28
lemonfly Refugee Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,381 Local Time: 01:36 AM	Isn't Dennis Tito planning on sending two people on a "flyby" of Mars in 2018? Assuming they don't die en route, they would be the first humans to look upon another planet with their own eyes. That would be a pretty momentous moment for our species. The robotic explorers are doing sterling work out there no doubt, but I hope their success doesn't contribute to human missions being placed on the backburner indefinitely.

04-04-2013, 11:19 PM	#31
purpleoscar Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: In right wing paranoia Posts: 7,613 Local Time: 11:36 PM	Great video of Mars. It seems Earthlike but naturally more barren and poisonous. I wonder how people can think of terraforming Mars without a molten iron core that can protect the atmosphere?

04-04-2013, 11:21 PM	#32
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 17,302 Local Time: 02:36 AM	Human adaptation.

04-06-2013, 07:11 PM	#33
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,600 Local Time: 10:36 PM	AFP: NASA wants to tow an asteroid to the moon: senator

04-07-2013, 01:51 PM	#34
nielsgov Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 8,740 Local Time: 07:36 AM	This thread has been an interesting read. Thanks guys. Space exploration fascinates me, like most people I think, but I barely know anything about it.

04-07-2013, 01:53 PM	#35
LuckyNumber7 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 17,302 Local Time: 02:36 AM	In a couple months time I'll revisit this thread if/when my thesis gets published and provide a link to a 40-50 page read for anyone willing...!