Blue Room
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Nube Gris said:they never have a 'bad night'........whats your f..problem?
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Of course they do. They are human beings.
Nube Gris said:they never have a 'bad night'........whats your f..problem?
Mr. BAW said:I didn't go to Hartford but I heard from a friend who did, he also saw two LA shows, that it wasn't so hot...that B's voice was very raspy following the Boston gigs... anyone else on Hartford???
U2FanPeter said:I've seen them about 16 times, but my first ever show was Popmart Vancouver, which I walked out during the encore. I've know of 4 other friends, all in seperate sections of the stadium, doing exactly the same thing before the concert was over.
U2FanPeter said:What's remarkable is that Bono kept his voice at a very high consistency for close to the full length of every show on the tour.
Save for ZOOTV, is that a first for the group inthe past 20 years?
u2fp
Nube Gris said:they never have a 'bad night'........whats your f..problem?
MTEdge said:Of the fourteen I saw, the worst shows were May 21 at MSG (bad band performance and horrible crowd) and May 14 in Philly (first of my 14 show run).
Bobo U2 said:The last 2 shows in Nov. at MSG.
The 1st show was way too loud....
And the second show with the Patti Smith crap at the end.
2 out of 16......not bad
Nube Gris said:they never have a 'bad night'........whats your f..problem?
Headache in a Suitcase said:it's all relative... this question is damn near impossible to answer because everyone's experiences are different.
someone mentioned that they thought 5/14 philadelphia was one of the worst because of the crowd... well i was at that show, my first show of the tour, had an amazing GA spot right on the rail outside the ellipse and thought it was amazing.
same with 11/21 MSG, which someone else mentioned... i was in the ellipse and had an amazing time.
now 10/11 MSG i had nosebleed seats, the only time i actually sat in the nosebleeders for the entire tour, and the people in my section were rather lame, not really standing too often, only into the mega hits, talking durring some of the slower songs, etc etc. now while the show it's self was good, it's my least favorite of all the ones i saw because of where i was sitting. but i'm sure that someone who was inside the ellipse had an amazing time.
it's amazing how getting stuck in a bad section can change someone's view of a show. when it's a quiet, lame-o section, you tend to pick up on little errors that the band makes, tend to think that the band was "lacking energy"... when you're in a spot that's going off and you're jumping all around like a mad man, the band sounds ilke they're having the greatest show they've ever done.
U2FanPeter said:
--I've never seen the show in anybody's top 10.
u2fp
learn2kneel said:Bad that night was one of the best versions of I've ever heard. Vertigo sounded horrible that night, but that was probly the worst thing you can say about the show. Bono's voice wasn't any worse than the other Chicago shows that I also saw.
4U2Play said:
Agreed.
I didn't attend any of the Chicago shows myself, but I did see them all on bootleg videos, and based on that alone, U2 wasn't any worse on 5/7 than any other date I have seen live or on video.
I think two things helped create the impression that 5/7 was U2's 'worst show":
1. Bono rapped the words to "Vertigo"
Vertigo is a straight forward rock song that is hard to improve upon or change around, much like "I Will Follow". Bono took a chance on it and tried a kind of rap version which made him sound out of breath. Because it was at the beginning of the show, I think this might have caused people to think that there is something wrong with him, or that he is sick, when he clearly was in fine form the rest of the show.
2. Bad reviews in the Chicago papers
Regardless of what everyone claims, people are very influenced by the media. I wonder if a lot of fans who saw the unjustifiably negative reviews the next day took them to heart.
Most versions of "Streets" are epic, but the 5/7 version is particularly spectacular, as is the finale with "Bad". I might be completely wrong about this, but 5/7 didn't look or sound like such a terrible show, at least on video.
Blue Room said:Sorry you disagree, but basing it on an aud. shot bootleg video is no indicator at all IMO.
4U2Play said:
On the contrary, everyone else around me inside the Ellipse at Oakland 1 thought the show rocked. They're probably right.
4U2Play said:
Terribly sorry that you disagree, but I would argue that basing one's opinion of a show on an audience shot bootleg video is just as valid an indicator as basing any other opinions of past rock concerts solely on a film recording of the event. One might even say that watching the show second-hand on video allows for more objectivity when grading a band's performance, not less.
Jimi at Monterey, The Who at Woodstock, Sex Pistols at Winterland, U2 at Live Aid.... most rock fans generally now agree that these were all great performances, even though 99% of them only saw the performances on TV. Saying to these people that because they weren't actually in the audience at these particular shows renders their opinions moot seems a bit tough.
Furthermore, I also believe that bootleg videos give a far better overall sense of a concert than some highly edited hatchet-job like the Hamlisch stuff they've been subjecting us to lately. The official Chicago DVD is nearly unwatchable, I'll take U2rulesmyworld's boots anyday.
Bono's comment that 'they were off that night' was only in response to the unfair review in one of the Chicago papers the next day... he was probably trying to be humble about it, imagine that. If he would have said, "What are you talking about, I thought we were pretty good", you can see how that would have gone over.
Based on the 7 Vertigo shows I attended this year, I would say that the Oakland 1 show was "the worst", but only because they played nearly the exact same setlist as Vegas 2, which I had just seen three days prior, but did not include Mary J. Blige or Brandon Flowers again.
On the contrary, everyone else around me inside the Ellipse at Oakland 1 thought the show rocked. They're probably right.