Why are U2 so hated?

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Calling Bono a wanker says more about the person who's calling other people names than anything else.

You're a troll, mate. One of the biggest one we've ever had around here. You can take that as a compliment if you want to.
 
Does Bono really think he or his music is punk?



He's said it so many times that I'm starting to think he actually, truly believes it.



There is nothing remotely punk about the band these days, nor has there probably since October. Not that that's a bad thing of course, but if he's going to call himself then I may as well call myself a socialite.


He's saying his band has punk roots, and at least one of them still has a bit of punk attitude. So when he talks about creating the stir he did with the iTunes stunt, he's saying that to annoy a lot of people is a bit of his punk roots showing.

And you can still hear the influence in their music too, if you care to listen. They don't do punk now, but the vestiges of it hang around.


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U2: When Art Becomes the Ad



By Nic Harcourt,


U2 has always been about messages.


In the band's early days in Dublin, beginning with the 1980 album Boy and its hit single "I Will Follow," they openly addressed Bono and the Edge’s Christianity, along with commentary on the Troubles in Northern Ireland. As the group got bigger, some 2 billion TV viewers watched in 1985 as U2 delivered their socially conscious lyrics at Live Aid, playing anthemic music with unbound zeal and earnestness. By the beginning of the 1990s, as Communism fell in Eastern Europe, the albums Achtung Baby and Zooropa reflected the hopes of a generation while taking a sarcastic swipe at the commercialism of modern culture that they themselves were a part of.

Make no mistake, U2 are an important part of rock 'n’ roll history.

But what happens when the art becomes the ad?
Complete with a $100 million media spend and the subtlety of an Ikea catalog stuffed in your mailbox or phone book chucked at your front door? What’s the message today: Show us the money?

U2 and Apple have some serious history. They first got into business together ten years ago when “Vertigo” served as the soundtrack to early iPod and iTunes commercials. At the time, it was a revolutionary partnership: the world’s biggest rock band teaming up with the cool kids in Silicon Valley to launch a new album and a hip new generation of music delivery devices.

But where that moment signaled birth, what happened last week, as the band debuted their new album Songs of Innocence on the back of Apple’s highly anticipated launch of the iPhone 6 and the revolutionary Apple watch, was quite the opposite. It actually pounded the final nails into a couple of coffins.

First and foremost: It killed the notion that recorded music has any intrinsic dollar value to consumers. Sure, Bono can say — as he did to Time Magazine — that “We were paid, I don’t believe in free music. Music is a sacrament.” But by giving it away, U2 have devalued that sacrament for every up-and-coming artist who ever hoped to make a living selling their music. According Nielsen SoundScan, U2's most recent album, 2009's No Line on the Horizon, sold just 1.1 million copies, down from 3.3 million for 2004’s How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb and 4.4 million for 2000 album All That You Can't Leave Behind. U2's biggest-selling album, 1987's The Joshua Tree, sold more than 20 million copies. They knew they weren’t going to make money on album sales; giving it away for free served a very different purpose.
But don't shoot the messenger. This has been coming for some time. Radiohead paved the way with their pay-what-you-like digital release In Rainbows in 2007. In 2013, Jay Z gave away the first million copies of his album Magna Carta, Holy Grail to Android owners, and Lady Gaga discounted Artpop and shilled Doritos at this year’s South by Southwest. It needs not be said -- or maybe it does so we can all see how it feels: It's just a matter of time before the next Katy Perry album or even the new Arcade Fire record is brought to you by Coke.

With that in mind, the grim reality for download sales in 2014 -- why buy when you can rent on Spotify, Beats Music, or any number of streaming services? -- makes U2's much-derided automatic download (to 500 million customers) seem painfully out of touch. You could say the same of Bono's subsequent boast (again, in Time) of a "new digital format" (since revealed to have been a misnomer) that would offer a novel immersive experience to the listener that could not be pirated.

Second, and perhaps a more surprising result of the dog and pony show in Cupertino on Sept. 9: Apple became uncool. A middle-aged millionaire CEO high-fiving middle-aged millionaire rock stars at a product launch isn’t hip, no matter which way you look at it. Tim Cook's fanboy move and the backlash that followed actually took attention away from Apple’s much bigger, stock market-tipping global product launch. And for what? Ten minutes of imagined cred?

What would have been cool: Apple launching a great new band that most of the world hadn’t heard of. That would have been innovative. Instead, the company came across as unimaginative, out of touch and boring. As someone said to me last week, they might as well be selling Buicks.

As for U2, they too have some selling to do: catalog, phones, and many, many concert tickets. And the notion that they remain a band of the people, even when they’re unabashedly out for themselves. U2 can't help themselves, shouting...
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But is anyone listening?
 
I don't like the album much either, but come on. At least mix it up a little. Briefly pretend you're not here just to piss everyone off.
 
The thread states Why are U2 hated. I am simply posing hypothesis. I did not create the thread. If you want a thread called Why are U2 so loved? then create one.


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Adam: Look guys, I got a Springfield spoon for my spoon collection.
Edge: Oh boy, here we go...
Bono: Wow, how many is that now Adam?
Adam: Nine. If I didn't have my spoons, I'd go insane.
Bono: Can I see it?
*adam gives bono the spoon, bono throws it away*
Adam: My spoon!

I think The Simpsons episode got it all pretty accurate. I wonder how long the writers had to be with the band to work it all out. Probably about 3 minutes.

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Yes, as international internet law says; you can post as many posts in one thread as you like.

I take total respect for your amazingly obsessive stalking of me that you would bother to go back and look at every single one of my posts and count how many are in a particular thread. If you love me that much, can you come over and mow my lawns and do my washing.

For those of you at home who are keeping score and it seems that there may be one or two billion of you out there who are totally obsessed internet stalkers hanging off my every word; that is 32 posts out of 45 now.
 
:cute:

You see the reply total for the thread? Click it and you can see how many times someone posted in a thread. Since you're right at the top of the list, by 20 more posts than anyone else, it perhaps took 4-5 seconds of my time.

If you would like a bigger audience for your ceaseless negativity, I suggest U2's Vevo page. It's also far more difficult to get banned.
 
It doesn't matter how much time it took you, it is totally OMG obsessive. I don't want a bigger audience, I don't care. I have said nothing to get banned, I have simply tried to answer the question of a thread possed by someone else. Can you leave me alone and stop obsessing your every waking thought about me. It is creepy.

It is a big wide world out there, try doing something else, like getting some exercise.
 
You've been answering OP's question, while contributing little else, for nearly a week now. Talk about obsessive.

Meanwhile, this afternoon was the first time I've addressed you in any capacity since you joined this forum. Luckily for the both of us, it will also be the last. Enjoy your playpen. :)
 
New thread: Why is Being the Beat so hated?

One post: He's a giant, green, hairy troll.

Lock thread.


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Noice. You last three posters are just a bunch of glorified bullies. Is that what it really means to be a U2 fan? Bono would be horrified.
 
Being a U2 fan is kind of like being an Aaron Sorkin fan. Both have early work that is lesser known but well liked by those who do (Boy for U2, Sports Night for Sorkin), classics that are almost universally adored by critics (for Sorkin, A Few Good Men and The West Wing, for U2, War, UF and JT), under-appreciated works the creators consider "unfinished" with a small cult following (Pop, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip) and a critically-acclaimed, dark, successful reinvention (The Social Network for Sorkin, AB for U2). both have always been polarizing, considered too preachy, optimistic, and earnest. both, though legends, are "uncool" and "for old people." their later work (The Newsroom for Sorkin, HTDAAB/NLOTH/SOI for U2) has had some success but has also been absolutely torn apart by the critics, though largely due to their preconceived notions about U2 or Sorkin, not the actual content itself.

I hope at least one person on this forum knows who Aaron Sorkin is, lol. maybe Apple will put his Steve Jobs movie on all iTunes accounts for free :lol:

U2 have never done anything as shitty as The Newsroom ;)
 
I love the thought of victory and defeat in a room full of ideas. All they are is ideas. They can't be right or wrong. They are just ideas.

But you know, just like U2, I have found that haters are going to hate.

Haters don't need any reason to hate.



They just Hate.



Because that is all they can do..

Because that is all they know..

Because that is the environment that they were brought up in and their parents and teachers didn't ever show them any better..

Haters gonna hate because they don't have an open mind.

And that is what U2 face with any new music that they produce.

Whether it is good or bad!
 
Lol at trolls thinking I'm American.

Lol at Haters calling people with a different opinion than them trolls.

I just have a different opinion than you.

That doesn't make me anything you call me.

You are the sorry hater.

If you can't understand what a WANKER is, it isn't my problem.
 
Irony is in the eye of the beholder. Name calling is beneath me.

When I say Capitalism. What is your first thought?


Good people playing by the rules providing for family and community, some struggling on their knees doing their best...

Whilst others like greedy men with yachts and islands thinking they're gangsters, with their gold cars clothes

Success, at the cost of human dignity and freedom.

Scientists, Leaders, Priests with unimaginable thirst and desire! Anything goes..,and the lost souls drunks gamblers miserable addicts trying to get their piece of the action, of the promised bliss.

The American dream.

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This is the exact moment Bono poisoned himself in the eyes of the young American generation who now controls consumption.

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Never dance with the Devil. For any reason.
 
No other band in the history of music has maintained their successful status as long as U2 has done. when you are famous for so long, then the list of enemies & haters naturally becomes long.
 
No other band in the history of music has maintained their successful status as long as U2 has done. when you are famous for so long, then the list of enemies & haters naturally becomes long.


I always compare u2 to manchester united. Their both the biggest in their own industry's but also the most hated. If your not with them your against them!
 
They gave this album to 500 million people. There are bound to be people who don't like U2 and more to the point...don't like anything and are just negative about anything that passes them during their day.

I mean......chances are even this guy got the New Album.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/20/puppy-rapist-sentence/15984325/

So in the end....don't sweat it.



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Come on guys, Beater is the cutest troll we've had in awhile. He knows how to post other peoples thoughts and pictures, yet hasn't figured out we have other threads. Let him have this one.


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