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diamond said:
So a shit life of drugs, witnessing a murder before his life, and mental illness makes someone "satanic"?
diamond said:
BonoVoxSupastar said:
So a shit life of drugs, witnessing a murder before his life, and mental illness makes someone "satanic"?
diamond said:
Fallacy.
diamond said:
Maybe the Pentagram on his hand and his outward adulation of Satan in court by saying "HAIL SATAN" might, just might change your thinking.
dbs
deep said:
pay attention
there are no satanic people
Richard Rameriez was a person that did evil deeds that should be held 100% accountable for those deeds
diamond said:
And a self professed Satan Worshipper
You pay attention.
dbs
BonoVoxSupastar said:
There are many who say Hail Mary's and have crosses tattooed on their bodies, doesn't always make them godly people, now does it? Especially if they are living a clouded life and can't make clear decisions.
diamond said:
Are they self professed Satan Worshippers?
dbs
yolland said:
To me it sounds like a case of a bunch of sick hillbilly fuckups (who are also racists, convicted criminals--108 convictions total between the 6 of them--and in at least a couple cases, alcoholic and/or seriously mentally ill as well) getting off on tormenting a mentally handicapped black woman. Quite possibly several of them come from a long line of fuckups who've been falling through the cracks of society for generations. Sordid yes, satanic no, unless there's evidence they belonged to an actual satanic cult. My guess is Frankie and Bobby Ray Brewster are outright mentally ill, but as for the rest, you'll find people like that in lots of small, impoverished country towns that have pervasive substance abuse and broken family problems. Unfortunately there are many places that answer to that description--no insult intended to all the people with their acts together and their hearts in the right place, be they rednecks, hillbillies, "good Christian folk" or whatever the label, who also live there.
deep said:and if I claim you
and go out and do bad deeds
are you responsible for my actions?
diamond said:
Ritual sacrifice of animals and people of all ages (including carrying out sacrifices in the British House of Commons)
yolland said:
To me it sounds like a case of a bunch of sick hillbilly fuckups (who are also racists, convicted criminals--108 convictions total between the 6 of them--and in at least a couple cases, alcoholic and/or seriously mentally ill as well) getting off on tormenting a mentally handicapped black woman. Quite possibly several of them come from a long line of fuckups who've been falling through the cracks of society for generations. Sordid yes, satanic no, unless there's evidence they belonged to an actual satanic cult. My guess is Frankie and Bobby Ray Brewster are outright mentally ill, but as for the rest, you'll find people like that in lots of small, impoverished country towns that have pervasive substance abuse and broken family problems. Unfortunately there are many places that answer to that description--no insult intended to all the people with their acts together and their hearts in the right place, be they rednecks, hillbillies, "good Christian folk" or whatever the label, who also live there.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
What kind of logic is that?
Just listen to yourself. You are constantly telling people in here they are true Christians, but now as long as you say it, you are a true satanist?
Does your double standard ever stop?
Charleston Gazette, September 13
Federal hate crime charges will not be filed against the six people who are accused of kidnapping, sexually assaulting and torturing Megan Williams, but more state charges are expected, law enforcement officials say. The picture slowly being revealed is one of a woman abused not necessarily because of her race, but because of her relationship with one of her alleged attackers — 24-year-old Bobby Brewster. Megan Williams, 20, was in Logan County of her own free will, Logan County Prosecuting Attorney Brian Abraham said Wednesday.
Williams was in Ohio when she decided to come to Logan County to meet a man she met through a phone dating service, according to multiple law enforcement sources, all of whom did not wish to be named. Once in Logan County, Williams met Bobby Brewster, who apparently was not the man she met through the phone dating service, according to the law enforcement sources.
On July 18, Bobby Ray Brewster was charged with domestic battery and domestic assault for allegedly striking and verbally threatening Williams at the mobile home where she was eventually tortured, according to a criminal complaint filed in Logan Magistrate Court by State Police Troopers B.K. Wellman and J.E. Williams. “We believe she came to Logan County ... of her own volition and had been frequenting Logan County prior to the domestic battery charge,” Abraham said. He would not confirm or deny that Brewster and Williams had a relationship.
When the troopers arrived at the house to respond to a domestic violence call, Brewster said he had not seen Williams for a few days, the complaint says. But the troopers found Williams behind the trailer. “[Williams] stated that she was hiding from the accused and his mother and that the assault and battery had just taken place prior to [our] arrival,” the troopers wrote in the July complaint.
On Tuesday, Krysti Sumpter, the Brewsters’ neighbor, told the Gazette that Williams asked her for help after she said she was threatened with a gun at the trailer. Sumpter said she took her to the State Police detachment in Logan, but believes she saw Williams back at the mobile home a few days later. “She was obviously back there because there because that is where she was discovered,” Abraham said Wednesday. “At this time we have no information that she was abducted or taken there against her will. It is my understanding that at least originally she was here of her own free will and that changed based upon the facts in the complaint,” he said.
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Media reports that Williams met someone on the Internet who brought her to Logan County are incorrect, Abraham said. No federal civil rights charges have been filed because there is no specific federal statute for such a crime, said Charles Miller, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of West Virginia. “The best case is that the state goes forward with its prosecutions,” Miller said. “I don’t want to say unequivocally that the federal government will not step in if evidence comes to light. But at this particular time we have decided to let the state go forward with their charges.”
The kidnapping charges could result in a sentence of life in prison, Miller said. “There is no federal statute that says if you hurt someone solely because of race that it is a violation of federal law,” he said. Crimes committed to prevent people from going to a certain church, or from living in a certain area because of their race or religion would be civil rights violations, he said. But the allegations thus far in the Williams case do not reach into the area of civil rights. “The allegations in the criminal complaints are horrific and all have serious penalties,” Miller said. “We have said to the county prosecutor that our job is to assist in any way we can.”
Bishop Richard Cox of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference said the crimes could still be racially motivated, even if there was a relationship between Williams and Bobby Brewster. “We still want something done about it because it still is racially motivated not only by what they did to her but what they said to her while they did it. They called her a ****** and brutally stabbed her in the leg,” said Cox, assistant to national SCLC Board Chairman Rev. Raleigh Trammell.
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More charges are expected against the defendants, Abraham said. The sheriff’s department and Abraham’s office are going over the crimes to determine more specifically what needs to be done, he said. The FBI will continue to assist in the case, said Special Agent Bill Crowley of the Pittsburgh division.
Police continue to look for two more people in the case, said Logan County Chief Deputy V.K. Dingess. “We have some names. We don’t have a location on them,” he said. The two people are believed to have brought Williams to the Brewster mobile home, he said. “Additional suspects may be charged with peripheral crimes,” Abraham said. “We believe we have the six primary actors in custody.”
Logan County Banner, Septemver 12
On March 6, 2007, the Logan County Sheriff's Department was called to the Brewster residence when a distraught Bobby Ray Brewster attacked his mother Frankie Brewster with a machete. At that time, he was arrested on charges of brandishing a deadly weapon, domestic assault and obstructing by deputies Jason Mathis, B. Ferrell and B. L. Cobb of the Logan County Sheriff's Department.
The deputies continued to order Brewster to come out of the building during a 15 minute stand off before he finally came out. "He was flailing that machete around when we arrived," Deputy Jason Mathis told the Logan Banner on March 7, adding that Brewster was ordered to surrender and he eventually placed the machete on the ground and fled into an outbuilding for several minutes refusing to come out. Mathis said he and other deputies were concerned at that point that Brewster might come out with another weapon such as a firearm or compound bow and possibly attack them.
Bobby Brewster was also reportedly involved in an incident earlier this year when a young man was stabbed.
That last paragraph just tears my heart out.Washington Post, September 13
Williams's distraught family members, by her bedside this week, say they have no idea how she became involved with the suspects, though they believe she was targeted because of her race.
"Her biggest problem: She got too much trust in people. We've been trying and trying, but we can't get that out of her," said her father, Matthew Williams. "You walk down the street, and she'll come up to you like she's known you all her life."
yolland said:
That last paragraph just tears my heart out.
These people did this out of sheer evil. They are 100% accountable for their crimes, and judging by their past deeds, they aren't too likely to repent or improve themselves. They need to be put away, whether for life or death, I don't care, just get them where they can't hurt anyone else.deep said:and people that do evil deeds should be held 100 % accountable those deeds
Butterscotch said:This story is disgusting, and I do hope all those who are guilty suffer the full penalty of the law and never hit the streets again.
However, I do find it ironic, even though the suffering of the victim was not nearly as bad, that when you have six black people beating up on a white person and it gets called a hate crime, everyone all over the country protests and gets the charges dropped (Jena 6) ....
Generally I don't like the idea of 'hate crime' because it devalues the life of someone hurt in a 'non' hate crime. So if a black guy shoots another black guy or a white woman kills another white woman that's not a 'hate' crime?
Butterscotch said:This story is disgusting, and I do hope all those who are guilty suffer the full penalty of the law and never hit the streets again.
However, I do find it ironic, even though the suffering of the victim was not nearly as bad, that when you have six black people beating up on a white person and it gets called a hate crime, everyone all over the country protests and gets the charges dropped (Jena 6) Even though that white guy was probably an asshole, it doesn't excuse six people attacking, beating and kicking one guy like that. Regardless of provocation you can't allow people to get away with that or we'd all be kicking each other's asses every time we get mad.
Generally I don't like the idea of 'hate crime' because it devalues the life of someone hurt in a 'non' hate crime. So if a black guy shoots another black guy or a white woman kills another white woman that's not a 'hate' crime? Sure didn't 'love' the person much did they? So these people get less time in jail because they attacked someone who was of the same color and gender? All crimes should be punished equally depending on the crime itself, not what demographic the victim was.
Butterscotch said:This story is disgusting, and I do hope all those who are guilty suffer the full penalty of the law and never hit the streets again.
However, I do find it ironic, even though the suffering of the victim was not nearly as bad, that when you have six black people beating up on a white person and it gets called a hate crime, everyone all over the country protests and gets the charges dropped (Jena 6) Even though that white guy was probably an asshole, it doesn't excuse six people attacking, beating and kicking one guy like that. Regardless of provocation you can't allow people to get away with that or we'd all be kicking each other's asses every time we get mad.
Generally I don't like the idea of 'hate crime' because it devalues the life of someone hurt in a 'non' hate crime. So if a black guy shoots another black guy or a white woman kills another white woman that's not a 'hate' crime? Sure didn't 'love' the person much did they? So these people get less time in jail because they attacked someone who was of the same color and gender? All crimes should be punished equally depending on the crime itself, not what demographic the victim was.