if i had a gun to my head and had to pick one of them, i suppose i'd be forced to go with hill hill.
just saying that kinda makes me gag a little.
just saying that kinda makes me gag a little.
2861U2 said:The best thing that could possibly happen for the Republicans is if Hillary got the nomination. It would be smooth sailing the rest of the way, IMO.
anitram said:
Keep telling yourself that.
I have serious reservations about Hillary for a number of reasons. But this idea that she is not electable is nonsense.
2861U2 said:The best thing that could possibly happen for the Republicans is if Hillary got the nomination. It would be smooth sailing the rest of the way, IMO.
LPU2 said:
Without a true conservative in the running, evangelicals will stay home in significant numbers.
I have to agree with you here, especially on the "anyone but a woman" / "anyone but another Clinton" factor.Headache in a Suitcase said:i think some underestimate the "anyone but hillary" turnout, and the unfortunate but all too real "anyone but a woman" and "anyone but a black guy" turnout
Headache in a Suitcase said:i think some underestimate the "anyone but hillary" turnout, and the unfortunate but all too real "anyone but a woman" and "anyone but a black guy" turnout
BonoVoxSupastar said:I think Republicans, like the Dems did last election with Bush, are depending too much on Hillary or Obama being not electable. They are ignoring the fact that they don't have a solid canidate.
STING2 said:
The Republicans have a solid candidate in John McCain. Nearly 50 years of experience in Foreign Policy and National Security while the front runners in the Democratic Party combined don't even have 10 years.
The problem John McCain or any Republican candidate has at the moment are the polls which show 57% to 60% of the public is against the war, while 40% still support it. If the public's mood about the war changes in favor of the Republicans in the next 18 months, then the Republicans will have knocked out the Democrats #1 factor, and perhaps the only factor, in being able to re-take the White House.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
The war is no longer the only reason people will be voting.
Yeah, that's why we're in the predicament we're in, because it's their strongpoint. If so the Republicans are screwed...2861U2 said:
It's their strongpoint, and they blow Dems away on the issue. Look at, for example, Obama and Clinton's responses during the Dem debate.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
The Republicans strongpoint is fear, and making you think this is the way to fight terrorism.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
The war is no longer the only reason people will be voting. Sorry you no longer have that life vest. The majority of people are either against or at least fed up with the way the war is being handled.
The Republicans are going to have to go back to relying on the evangelical vote and McCain can't get that.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Yeah, that's why we're in the predicament we're in, because it's their strongpoint. If so the Republicans are screwed...
The Republicans strongpoint is fear, and making you think this is the way to fight terrorism.
2861U2 said:
That's very incorrect. Try again.
If you want to talk about fear, look to your own party first. The Dems won the 06 election based entirely on fear, spouting garbage scaring the people into thinking that America isnt safe. All the Dems have to offer is fear.
STING2 said:
The "evangelical vote" will always go to the Republican candidate as it has gone for decades.
STING2 said:
Allowing Al Quada to have a safe haven in Iraq by pre-maturely withdrawing US troops as Democrats propose is certainly not the way to fight terrorism.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
But what you don't get is that if they aren't catered to, they don't really come out and vote... So there's no use talking about them.
LPU2 said:evangelicals will stay home in significant numbers.
2861U2 said:they just need to concentrate on talking about combatting terrorism.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
I agree both extremes are useless. A pullout or a surge, completely useless.
You all made the bed, now we all have to lie in it...
I'm just telling you what is coming directly from their mouths.STING2 said:
Evangelical's have been voting for decades. Its not the be all and end all that many have mistakenly made them out to be.
STING2 said:
In addition, McCain draws from a much wider base of people than any other Republican nominee in recent memory. The general election will be decided by the publics perception about Iraq in November 2008.
STING2 said:
The idea that its useless is simply false.