corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
Fat-shaming is so hot right now.
The fact that he requested to fly standby on a flight he did not buy a ticket for weakens his whole argument.
Oh, c'mon, how does flying standby weaken the argument? And what possible justification can they have in yanking him when he's seated, and when his seatmates have said he's fine? And why has the airline allowed him to fly every other time (including several times the week before) with no problem? He regularly flies that airline.
Listen to the podcast, and then talk to me.
Is it possible that if he asked them directly they may have one thing, and then complained to the airline staff?
Are you sure his seat mates said he was fine?
Is it possible that if he asked them directly they may have one thing, and then complained to the airline staff?
I just wanted to mention what came from him, as opposed to what's being reported.
I can't believe how badly the media has been fucking this up, when the story is right there for them to hear, from his own mouth. Have they become that lazy that they can't report facts?? I suppose that aspect of it angers me as much as the initial situation does. It's like one media outlet will pick up a factually incorrect story, and the rest of them run with it, sheep-like, without even fact-checking. Unbelievable. I watched the same thing happen last week with a U2 story, too, something that was easily fact-checkable, and I called a reporter on it in his blog. Idiots.
Rather than play devil's advocate, listen to the podcast for the story, and then you'll know.
I do agree with you about the media picking up a story and running with it because of the sensational aspects involved.
It seems like this one and some others you have listed have hit a nerve with you.
I also think fat-shaming is wrong.
If these seat are 18 inches, and someone can get the armrest down but they spill over. or encroach into the neighbors 18 inch space, lets say 6-7 inches, leaving that person with 12 or 11 inches of space, there is a problem.
The encroacher could be a body builder type, large / wide framed person or whatever. The Airlines should be consistent and require they pay for additional space, too.
Passengers are now charge for the amount of luggage they bring, larger people do not get extra luggage space because of their size.
I will accept that there is bad (incorrect) information circulating
but listening to his podcast is the objective representation of what occurred?
I do believe it is a source that should be taken into account.
It is a somewhat complicated issue.
Does a larger person get to argue that they should be allowed a larger 'carry on' bag because their clothing, shoes, etc are larger than the average, that they need to have on their 2 day business trip.
Does a person that is larger get plate of food that is twice as big because that is what they require?
I'm just a pessimist when it comes to flying. I expect long delays and mechanical errors. I expect to be seated (in a way that I am blocked from the aisle) next to the most annoying person, fat or not. I've only flown a few times and my first ever flight was when I was about 21 years old. Sure enough I've experienced multiple mechanical delays and annoying people, like the guy who took off his boots and subjected those around him to that "hockey bag" stench for 9 hours, or the guy who was really nice (telling me his life story and shady business deals) but had this overwhelming curry and garlic smell, also a 9 hour flight.
I also think fat-shaming is wrong.
I'm not saying I have the answer, and I can understand the necessity to have people buy two seats if they do require more space than one seat. There just has to be a better way to go about it.
deep, it's so charming how you post pictures of overweight people squeezed into small seats in this thread. It's such a helpful contribution to the topic.
But it's okay to post pictures of them to illustrate your point in an exaggerated manner. Got it.
I try and nap, so I can be rested for my arrival
I agree...though that also presents bad images of a weigh-in at the check in counter.
Try that for 13 hours when you don't know how to try and find a comfortable angle anymore.
Drug us all into oblivion, strip us down, and stack us like cordwood.
Seating problems AND terror fears solved!
-high fructose corn syrup
-sitting on the couch
More thoughts (but I stopped)
That's good, because this thread isn't about the reasons for/perils of the growing problem of obesity, it's about airlines' policies regarding passengers.
If the alternative is to make it some sort of requirement prior to purchasing tickets, how do you measure that? Weight isn't going to be an exact measure of whether or not someone can fit into a seat, and plenty of people will tell you that BMI is not a great measuring stick, either.
Argh. I'm getting unnecessarily worked up over this. It's probably a good thing I have somewhere else to be later tonight.
I know very tall people that are forced to pay a premium to fly 1st class because their legs will not fit in coach seat space.