coemgen said:
1. macphisto23, you do not believe in ONE God — what are you talking about? You believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirt as three seperate beings -- three different gods. You also believe you and I can become a god. Once again, you have yet to reconcile any of this with the Bible's clear statement that there is "but ONE God."
2.Wow. I'm sorry, but your No. 2 point there is a clear and glaring example of how Mormons take certain verses to fit their belief system. You should read the verses AROUND it and include ALL of the verse, not just the parts you like.
You completely left out the part where Christ said "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. He then tells the person "You know the commandments" and lists them. The person responds "I've kept them since I was a boy." Jesus then said "One thing you lack," he said. "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." He's telling the person that keeping the commandments ISN'T what it's about. Even if he's kept them "No one is good — except God alone." Therefore this guy isn't good, despite his keeping of the commandments! (Good meaning righteous, or right with God). The one thing he is lacking -- the thing that would make him "good" or "right with God" is simply following Christ.
So, in reality, after a look at the context of the whole story of "The Rich Young Man" and the ENTIRE verse that you tried to quote, the actual meaning is the complete opposite of what you were getting at. This stuff is done regularly by Mormons. I'm not saying that to bash, I'm saying it as a fact. This fits the definition of a cult. Not my definition, but a general definition.
3. But you're NOT preaching the same Gospel. Your Jesus is different and your path to salvation is different. How do you reconcile that?
4. Yes. My mind is already made up. I think the points I've made above and before, as well as points you've made, are sufficient for seeing this. Don't you see it? Seriously, and I say this with all due respect — I urge you to look at it deeper. How do you reconcile all these differences and contradictions?
1- Ha Ha, coegman please reread my post on the trinity, and understand our interpretation of "ONE" God. We believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, and believe that they are "ONE" in purpose and "ONE" in heart, but not "ONE" in substance, as you believe. But our interpretation is wrong and yours is right??? ofcourse
2- I'm sorry but our interpretation is exactly in line with the Bible
Mathew 19
16- He asked "what do I have to do to have eternal life"?
17-Jesus sais " there is none good but one, that is God(or Heavenly Father, but why would Jesus talk about himself like that?)" he continues " if thou wilt enter into life, "Keep the Commandments"
18, 19 - Which Commandments do I have to keep? Jesus lists all of them
20- Young Man says he has kept all of them since he was young, "WHAT LACK I YET". He's asking Jesus, what else do I have to do aside from keeping the commandments(works).
21- Jesus says " if thou will be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me." Aside from keeping the commandments it is vital in life to follow Christ, follow his teachings, his commandments, be obedient to them.
I'll skip ahead
He required his disciples to follow his teachings and commandments
32- and said that they would be rejected at the judgment day if they did not do so.
33- He declared that "not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven,"
34- suggesting that confession of his name, while necessary, is insufficient for salvation.
So, in reality, after a look at the context of the whole story of "The Rich Young Man" and the ENTIRE verse that you tried to quote, the actual meaning is the complete opposite of what you were getting at.
The confusion over grace results principally from the writings of the apostle Paul. But if Paul really taught that grace alone was sufficient for salvation, we have to consider a number of questions-
Why did Paul write so often to Christian congregations admonishing them to abandon their sinful ways?
Why did Paul have to tell believing Christians that those who committed various sins could not be saved in the kingdom of God?
Why did Paul teach that Christ is "the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe?"
Why did Paul say that "godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation?"
Why did Paul tell the Philippians to "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling?"
When discussing "the grace of God that bringeth salvation," why does Paul say that it teaches "that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world?"
Why does the epistle to the Hebrews say that Jesus was "the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him?"
Each of these passages suggests that grace alone is not sufficient for salvation. Consequently, when reading the epistles of Paul, one must keep a much broader picture in mind. For example, Paul told the Romans,
18-That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
From this passage, it is clear that grace alone is insufficient and that it must be coupled at least with faith and with one act, confession.
In several of his epistles, Paul wrote that salvation came by grace, not works. For example, he wrote of Christ "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began."
19- He told the Romans that "if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."
20- He asked his readers, "Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."
Was Paul teaching that good works were not the basis of salvation? If so, how are we to understand passages like Revelation 20:12-13, which say that God will judge men "according to their works"? The answer lies within Paul's epistles to the Romans and the Galatians, in which he clearly explained what he means by "works." He declared that "Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. Wherefore? Because (they sought it) not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone."
3- We believe in the Jesus from the Bible, I don't know what Jesus you believe in?
4- I urge you to look deeper
I totally love and appreciate people of other faiths. I have no problem with these people. Like Mormonism, there's great, kind people who follow these faiths. Heck, I'm sure you and I would get along great if we went out for dinner or something. I'll totally buy you dinner if I'm in your neighborhood. I just don't see how disagreeing equates to hate or intolerance -- especially when some of what I'm presenting isn't even my opinion, but fact. Are we all just supposed to give into each other and not stand for anything? 
