Moonlit_Angel
Blue Crack Addict
thankfully it's the open minded progressives (liberals) posting these comments
otherwise i'd think these remarks both sexist and racist...but i know it's just another link in the long chain of diversity of ideas
What exactly in what we're saying could be construed as "sexist" or "racist"? I don't deny that there are some liberals who can be just as prejudicial as conservatives, but I'm not sure where one could find such examples here.
I think Palin's attitudes and image are pretty sexist. As I've said before, she pretty much embodies every single stereotype about how women in politics would act. She's more focused on her look than what she says. She's not as smart as the men around her. Granted, there's a lot of male politicians out there who aren't that brilliant, either. They just seem a bit smarter in comparison to her. The Republican Party pretty much picked her because the Democrats had Hilary and they wanted to be like, "See? We can support a woman, too! For vice-president, of course, not as an actual presidential nominee, but see, we can work on being forward-thinking, too!" And so on.
I could well be reading too much into this, too, but that's how it's coming off to me.
you're right in that what Obama absolutely needs to do is ignore her for as long as possible, though given the exposure i've had to rural America via de facto in-laws, Obama's marks, while absolutely politically silly, aren't all that far off the mark.
They certainly aren't. In nearly every single town I've lived in, there are plenty of people who fall into the stereotypes Obama talked about. I can make a small list of people I know or have encountered who are very enthused about guns. And while some areas I've lived in tend to be more big on church and religion than other areas, there's no doubt it's still very important to many who live here.
And I don't even think Obama meant it as an insult to begin with, just a statement of some truth more than anything else. He never came out and said that anyone who owns a gun or is religious is bad for being that way, he just meant that in troubled times, people do tend to look for ways to protect themselves, or means to find comfort and support. And we have multiple instances of this happening throughout history, both in rural areas AND in bigger cities as well.
Not to mention, if people are so insulted by that comment, it's probably not going to help your argument if you go out and pretty much wind up proving what Obama said to be true, which is what a lot of people have done.
That being said, however, I fully agree with this:
The fake folksiness is just bait, and Obama shouldn't take it. In reality, it's pretty damned insulting to suggest rural Americans are incapable of "relating to" or evaluating a Honolulu-bred President who bodysurfs and shoots hoops rather than hunting and fishing; we all have our own regional inflections and perspectives, that's a strength not a weakness. He should point that out and move on undeterred, not play into their hands with snotty-sounding invocations of dumb-redneck stereotypes.
As stated, there are many instances out there that prove Obama's statement true. But there's also plenty of people who don't fall into that mindset, and just as it'd be wrong for Obama to assume all rural, "Middle America" folks think the same and act the same, it's just as wrong and insulting and patronizing when the Republicans do it, too. Same goes for all the stereotypes involved with big cities. Both parties should never presume too much or too little about their potential voters. That's what can get you into trouble come voting time.
As for Sarah's show, I have not seen it yet, nor do I have any desire to. Reasons as to why are abundantly clear to anyone who's read my thoughts/rants in this thread thus far about her. And in response to financeguy, hey, I'd be happy to rant at length about those guys, too. I've been away for much of the last couple years, so if there were any threads about them in that time, I'm sorry I missed them . I could pretty much write a book at this point about my feelings on the Republican Party at large.
Angela