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Neo-'conservatism' sees enemies everywhere, some might be real but most are imagined.
It's so sad but true...
It's what it's built upon...
Neo-'conservatism' sees enemies everywhere, some might be real but most are imagined.
It's so sad but true...
It's what it's built upon...
One photo reportedly showed an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner and another was said to show a male translator raping a male detainee, the Telegraph reported.
honestly, i preferred Cheney's speech in the original German.
I was afraid he actually had talked German. You are referring to this: The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan ?
There are treatment centers for victims of torture in the US. Maybe those who have no clue but honestly think they can tell what constitutes torture and what not should think about visiting one and talking to the people who are dealing with the results of this dangerous naivete.
actually, i was referencing a Molly Ivins' comment from back in 1992 after Pat Buchanan's shocking speech at the 1992 Republican Convention. she said that she preferred the speech in the original German, making the ironic point that it was Nazi-esque. dramatic, perhaps, but not totally inaccurate.
however, it is important to note that techniques used by Bush/Cheney were also used by the Nazis.
actually, i was referencing a Molly Ivins' comment from back in 1992 after Pat Buchanan's shocking speech at the 1992 Republican Convention. she said that she preferred the speech in the original German, making the ironic point that it was Nazi-esque. dramatic, perhaps, but not totally inaccurate.
however, it is important to note that techniques used by Bush/Cheney were also used by the Nazis.
Sure, and today Obama/Biden have begun the Nazi-like technique of building "the peoples car."
Or in the original German, Volks-Wagen.
Reductio ad Hitlerum.
Memphis drives a VW. it's a great car.
Aren't all of ours built in Mexico these days anyway?
VWs are hugely overpriced IMO...I had a Golf back in high school.
Touareg ?Memphis drives a VW. it's a great car
kinda sucks that now GM is yet another failure of the free market, and that if we want to build things in this country we better get started on windmills and solar panels, but i guess that's how it goes.
Judge: Gitmo legal documents must be public
By NEDRA PICKLER – 1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge ordered the United States on Monday to publicly reveal unclassified versions of its allegations and evidence justifying the continued imprisonment of more than 100 detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay.
The Justice Department had been filing unclassified versions of its legal documents under seal, so that they could only be seen by judges, attorneys and government officials.
Department officials described the practice as necessary to protect national security after they discovered that some unclassified records initially filed publicly mistakenly contained some classified information.
Attorneys for the detainees said the secrecy made it harder for them to prepare for upcoming hearings. The Associated Press, the New York Times and USA Today had joined the fight, arguing that the government was keeping valuable information from the public that has a right to monitor the legal process.
U.S. District Judge Thomas Hogan sided with the detainees' attorneys and the media, saying the public has a right to access the records.
The judge ordered the Justice Department to publicly file its unclassified records or show the court what specific information it wants to keep protected, with a colored highlighter, by July 29.
"The issue of what to do with the detainees at Guantanamo Bay remains a source of great public interest and debate," Hogan wrote.
"Providing the public with access to the charges levied against these detainees, as detailed in the factual returns, ensures greater oversight of the detentions and these proceedings," he said. "As long as public access does not come at the expense of the litigation interests of petitioners or national security, the court believes the public has a common law right to access the returns."
The Justice Department had said the documents were only sealed temporarily so they could have more time to review them carefully for classified information.
Sure, and today Obama/Biden have begun the Nazi-like technique of building "the peoples car."
Or in the original German, Volks-Wagen.
Reductio ad Hitlerum.
there are reasons why this G M failed
high up on the list are the legacy costs.
I heard that there were 10 past workers recieveing pensions and health benfits for every worker today.
Volkswagen.
I'm wondering for a while now, with the change in government have the detainees in Guantanamo at least been put in humane conditions that hold up to civilised standards? I can understand that you just cannot close the whole thing down tomorrow, but don't see why the conditions couldn't be changed instantly.
there are reasons why this G M failed
Chinese buy hummer, so we do get a happy ending.[/url]
I don't disagre with much of what you wrote
the union model worked well for many years, If an auto-worker retired in the 60s or 70s they would have probably gotten by pretty well.
In today's world, one worker vs. 10 retirees is not sustainable. I believe the bankruptcy is going to wreck havoc on today's retirees.
Civil servants still enjoy pretty good pensions and benefits, I expect them to implode next, in the next 5-10 years.
It is very unpleasant, that peoples lives are turned upside down.
Psssst, Don't Tell Anyone But the CIA's Enhanced Interrogation Techniques Worked [Andy McCarthy]
On a Saturday morning in late August, while country was away on summer vacation and those who closely watch politics were watching Ted Kennedy's funeral, the Washington Post quietly hung up the mainstream media's white flag on the CIA's harsh interrogation tactics. It turns out, they work — who knew?
As they say, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. The MSM has tried to have both for the last five years, arguing against experience and common sense that tactics like sleep-deprivation and waterboarding were not effective. Clearly, they worked, and to great effect.
Obviously, there is still a principled argument to be made that the nation should not engage in such practices. But the burden of making it in a principled way should be to say: "While this is an excruciating choice, it would be better for thousands of Americans to be killed than to allow the CIA to use non-lethal coercive tactics (that cause no lasting physical or mental damage) on a terrorist who refuses to tell us what he knows about ongoing mass-murder plots."
You haven't been paying attention.I don't think anyone ever said that "torture NEVER works".