from the philadelphia inquirer...
Santana gives the Mets a stopper...
...like the Phillies have in Cole Hamels...
Santana gives the Mets a stopper...
...like the Phillies have in Cole Hamels...
Got Philk? said:Oh, and how come there's no talk of the Cubbies signing Jon Lieber.
Got Philk? said:
this guy says we'll see you in the playoffs.
Oh, and how come there's no talk of the Cubbies signing Jon Lieber.
DaveC said:
Christ, you can have him.
“The Mets are not only getting a Cy Young winner, but an absolute bulldog who’s great in the clubhouse. He’s going to dominate that league. They’re going to absolutely love him in New York…I know he’s happy, too, because he really wanted to go to the Mets. He’s always wanted to swing the wood. He can hit…So I don’t know who’s happier, Johan, the Mets, or everyone in the American League because they don’t have to face him anymore.”
--Torii Hunter
"I don’t think this makes [the Mets] the class of the division."
--Tom Glavine doing his best Tiki Barber
Hewson said:if I'm a Twins fan...not so much. Highway robbery.
Headache in a Suitcase said:e-bay certainly doesn't waist any time...
If they just pulled the trigger in December instead of trying to hold the Yanks and Red Sox over a barrel trying to one-up the other's offer, they could have gotten a much better deal from either...so in my eyes they royally F'ed this thing up.zonelistener said:
To an extent. I agree they should have received at least ONE "non-prospect" player, but Johan gave the Twins a deadline of Jan. 29 to get a deal done (remember, he has a no trade clause). If they do not get a deal done...they may just lose him to free agency and get NOTHING for him.
It might suck, but it is also better than nothing.
I am happy to see Johan as a Met. He had hell of a game (batting) against the Mets this summer. It will be fun to see him at the plate.
Hewson said:If they just pulled the trigger in December instead of trying to hold the Yanks and Red Sox over a barrel trying to one-up the other's offer, they could have gotten a much better deal from either...so in my eyes they royally F'ed this thing up.
Compare the Mets package to Ellsbury, Masterson, Lowrie and Bowden...its like .40-.50 on the dollar.
Compare it to Lester, Crisp, Lowrie and Bowden, its like .50-.60 on the dollar.
Compare it to Hughes, Melky and one other prospect its like .60-.70 on the dollar.
The Twins bluffed, and got caught holding jack high, and in return got jack sh*t.
And "nothing" may have actually been better, we can't know for sure, but the draft picks they'd get when Carlos left as a free agent have the potential to add up to more than the Mets prospects, plus they'd have Santana for 2008, and if Liriano is healthy, might have had one last legit run at the WS, whereas I think you can pencil them in for 4th in the division now.
Its almost Herschel Walker in reverse. Its certainly on a similar level as the Sox/Expos incredibly one sided Pedro deal.
Hewson said:whereas I think you can pencil them in for 4th in the division now.
zonelistener said:
Because of ONE Pitcher? That is a bit extreme...I did not realize he could pitch every game.
fourth? They play in the same division as K.C.
No spoken words said:
They finished in 3rd last year, and the team behind them, the White Sox, have improved, or at least tried to, while the Twins lost their ace.
I'd say 4th place as well, ahead of KC.
phanan said:They always seem to bring up new people who make an impact, so I wouldn't count them out. Anything is possible.
But it might take a year or so for them to make the playoffs again.
No spoken words said:
And, you lost Torii Hunter.