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MLB 2013-14: End of the World Series, Offseason, Etc.
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I have no idea what we're arguing about anymore.
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You know, in less than 20 years neurological research and technology will have progressed to the point where you can pull out an iPhone app, do a brain scan of an athlete, and tell exactly how clutch or chokey he is, if at all.
This is both fascinating and frightening.
This is both fascinating and frightening.
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God forbid we actually have a lengthy discussion!Maybe we should change the subject.Enough with all the clutch bullshit.
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The same God who told Reggie White to sign with the Packers??
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I understood the clutch thing but then we started talking about Tourist's high school baseball career and I lost my way.
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Oh shit, I'm with you there.
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Yes. He won a Super Bowl, right?
Plus the same God who has a shit load of Source, Vibe, Grammy and American Music Awards in His great room. Yes, God has a great room. Probably for all of the awards and championships that He's credited with. Ain't easy being The Big Guy.
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Actually, he just gave you an intelligent response at the end of the last MLB thread. You should check it out.
It's very simple, and I responded in the last thread.
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I was better at baseball in the clutch but worse in basketball.
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Obviously, baseball is a sport where you're going to fail more than you succeed. 3 out of 10 and you're considered good. What Papi is doing in the Series right now is incredible. If he keeps it up, it could be considered one of the best WS performances.
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Just did, and I responded. To a certain point I agree. There is no way to quantify it, though.
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Right, after just looking super ugly in the ALCS.
And that's all I've been saying. There are some things that are simply not measurable.
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I believe I used these exact words in the previous thread this afternoon. Nobody ever said it was quantifiable, just that there are some players who rise to the occasion and some who cave under its pressure. We have all witnessed it, doesn't mean it happens all the time, certainly doesn't happen with every player, but the world of sport does have its Robert Horrys and Rick Ankiels.
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Except when the Red Sox needed something clutch...
Ortiz belts game-tying grand slam in eighth - YouTube
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Which also means there is no way to say for sure when it is or is not happening. We just don't know. Unless a player goes against his PR's advice and lets the world know. Which would be career suicide.
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One plate appearance doesn't magically erase many plate appearances.
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Yeah. It has it's extreme outliers. Ridiculously few and far between. 100 points of OPS means underperformance. Nothing more or less without quantifiable proof. Otherwise it's just conjecture and narrative.
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If its a grand slam that turns the tide, it sure as Hell does. Papi's blast kicked the Tigers right in the nuts.
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And I believe if you read what I said about Arod (man you are hung up on this), I said he has "underperformed in the playoffs compared to the regular season when his entire career is examined". How that differs from you saying it "means underperformance" puzzles me, but you seem to think I'm saying something different regarding him from what I can tell.
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He's just an easy example that the masses say is a choke artist. When in reality, he is not at all. That's why I keep bringing him up. The typical baseball fan is an idiot. The fan that would look at a tiny sample of below average and say he's a massive choke artist is that typical idiot fan. I never said that you said that A-Rod was a choke artist.
Anyway, can you and Headache seriously lay off the dredging of 6+ year old conversation in which I pointed out that the good-hitting Mariners if that year needed another good hitter in the lineup? Because seriously, Felix is the only thing in common between that team and this team. It's tired, old, not funny or clever. Same with all the Edgar Martinez sniping.
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