Sherry Darling
New Yorker
Ok, who is seeing HP and the Goblet of Fire?
I haven't yet, but it's on my list!
I haven't yet, but it's on my list!
UnforgettableLemon said:class 'til 2
Walk the Line @ 4
Harry Potter @ 7
corianderstem said:I want to see it, but want to try and see it when it's not completely packed. May have to wait a week or two.
bsp77 said:
I just want to give a valid reason why I think you should see it when it is completely packed. When you see it opening day, there are a lot of die-hards there who shut the fuck up once the movie starts because it is the greatest thing to them. If you see it after a couple weeks, the non-fans start coming in and that seems to be when I get the older couple that talks too loudly the whole time or snot-nosed tweens who don't really care about the movie.
Plus, there is an excitement in the air opening day that you can feel.
Dalton said:The simple beauty of the 4th Potter book is in how methodical and loving Rowling is in letting us into the magical world. She dwells on small details of the Burrow; she takes us on a tour through the Quiddich World Cup; she patiently builds the characters of minor characters like the Weasley twins and Neville - all to the great affect of letting us the audience begin to love their world. The movie does not do that. Of course, it doesn't have time to linger on all of the small details as a book can, but it can linger ... a bit. The set of the movie is FANTASTIC, but shot after shot is fast paced and blurring. It leaves the movie feeling cold. In the book, the rift between Harry and Ron is painful because we see the effects of darkness on a friendship we care about; in the movie its a trite side story. In the book, the dark mark at the Quiddich World Cup is a dramatic and terrible switch from the carnival of wonder and excitement that directly proceeds it; in the movie you are rushed through the fun and wonder and are made to dwell longer on the dark magic.
That is the second point that disappoints me about the movie. The Goblet of Fire is first and foremost about the great tragedy of lost innocence. By spending so much time building and inviting us into a world that we love, Rowling masterfully describes what it is like when darkness is polutes. The book is not about the return of Voldermort, it is about the shame that evil exists and the saddness that brings to us all. The movie is dark through-out. Their is a palpable fear (strangely and incongruously from Dumbledore himself) that evil is present and good will not be able to stand up to it; in the book the reality that evil has returned is more of a burden that puts a ceiling on joy; the movie quashes that joy in all but a few moments of levity (the Eule Ball).
For Honor said:I'm kinda not on the bandwagon yet, but...... I'm seriously thinking about renting the first 3 movies this week, and seeing the 4rth one in a bit, after the lines died down.
sound like a good idea?
bsp77 said:I really disagree with Dalton's post. The movie would have to be four hours long to accomplish what you wanted. I no longer expect the book in movie form, I just want a great movie. In terms of setting up the magic and the innocnece and all the small details, we have the other movies for that. Just like in Return of the King, they didn't have to re-show us a half an hour of the The Shire for us to feel homesick with them, we remember it from Fellowship of the Ring.
Dalton said:
I disagree. I don't think they would have to change that much of the movie to capture the essence of the book. They just needed to slow down. And I agree with you. Slowing down the first 15 minutes of the movie would have done a lot of that.
Like I said, so much of the movie was brilliant (the set!!!!!), but it moves so fast that you miss out on a lot of it. I agree that you could never do the book full justice in one movie (not without an intermission), but the could have done better. They told the story well, they just missed the point.
menelaos said:What's my penalty if I tell you that I hate all this Harry Poter trend and hype..??
LemonMacPhisto said:
floggings
lots and lots
of floggings
beau2ifulday said:All I feel is that it needed alot more Lucius Malfoy in it.
menelaos said:What's my penalty if I tell you that I hate all this Harry Poter trend and hype..??