The OOTS
Refugee
BEAL said:I think the whole point is with GA's, you're not guaranteed anything, no matter what time you show up. So just deal with it. It's supposed to be about the music...
BEAL said:I think the whole point is with GA's, you're not guaranteed anything, no matter what time you show up. So just deal with it. It's supposed to be about the music...
tkramer said:Honestly, there wasn't much complaining about the GA line on the last tour. 99% of everyone I knew loved it. The folks who didn't just bought seats, and everyone was happy.
GreginCali said:The way I look at it, it gives everyone the same fair shot. I know some people have the dedication to spend the time before a show to "ensure" their spot. And I'm happy for those fans - but what about those fans that don't have that luxury. I understand the argument that "you'd make the time," but what if U2 "auctioned" the spots inside the Ellipse (and donated the proceeds to one of their charitable causes)? Then the power shifts from those that have the ability to make the time to those that make the money.
BEAL said:I think another strong contributor to this new lottery system was the fiasco in Boston. People were handpicked either by U2, NBC, HBO, or all together for the heart.
This caused a huge uproar and even had fans barking at Bono when they met him at the airport/hotel (Diamond could tell you better). Bono got so irritated that he yelled back at a few of these fans.
I wouldn't be surprised that from that day on there were discussions on how to change the GA lineups.
I think the whole point is with GA's, you're not guaranteed anything, no matter what time you show up. So just deal with it. It's supposed to be about the music...
Hallelujah Here She Comes said:
Do you understand the distinction between "floor" and "general admission"? The floor is a place. General admission is a system. If I am guaranteed a spot in a specific place, that says nothing about the system that got me there. They could sell reserved seats on the floor and that wouldn't magically make them general admission.
A lottery is fundamentally a different system than general admission. By every definition I've ever seen (including the one that ticketmaster uses), GA is first come first serve. It goes in order of arrival. A lottery is random. It's incoherent to say the you can have a system that goes in order and is random. If it's random, by definition it doesn't go in order. So if it's a lottery, it is by definition not GA.
Mirrorball Girl said:
This is getting way off topic, but that's okay ... no. No, general admission is not guaranteeing one a spot on the floor by definition. The definition, including "first come first served" has been posted many times. Just to clarify. I have been to dozens of general admission concerts where the general admission policy included all the seats in the venue as well. General admission is a policy. The floor is a place.
u2wedge said:
Yes I know the difference. I simply stated that there is no official seating chart that has 'GA' inside the oval. GA is for the floor only.
You make a point, and then contradict yourself in every post I've read.
The technical definition of 'General Admission' is 'unreserved seating', (or if you're not American, 'festival seating' or 'open floor'.) Find me a definition of General Admission as being 'first come, first served' and I'll stand corrected.
My tickets say "General Admission." What does that mean?
General Admission refers to seating or standing areas that are not assigned or reserved, and are occupied on a first-come, first-served basis.
\The OOTS said:Perhaps, the ellipse was not designated as GA on any of those charts because they knew its access would be determined by a lottery.
The chart in the link you've shown is a 'generic' TM GA layout for a concert and may not be specific to U2.
The OOTS said:Perhaps, the ellipse was not designated as GA on any of those charts because they knew its access would be determined by a lottery.
The chart in the link you've shown is a 'generic' TM GA layout for a concert and may not be specific to U2.
The OOTS said:Those charts are generically given for any show that has GA and an end stage setup. More a tribute to TMs stupidity more than anything...
The OOTS said:Why can't you accept that this is the way the BAND wants it!!
You'll be entertained either way.
The OOTS said:For all TM knew, when these tickets were sold... back in Jan...there would be no ellipse.
Hallelujah Here She Comes said:
That's true. I will be entertained either way. And I can accept that the band seems to want it this way. But they've also specifically asked for our opinions (there's a giant thread on zootopia where you can post them), so they obviously want to hear differing opinions. Also, just because they want it that way doesn't mean I can't use my brain and my sense of fairness to determine that I don't like it.
Hallelujah Here She Comes said:
Then why are those seating charts still up? And didn't U2 know that there would be an ellipse? If so, then it's still their fault that they didn't put out a proper seating chart to post on ticketmaster.
The OOTS said:
They don't get specific with anyone's stage designs on those charts...they are generic!
Hallelujah Here She Comes said:Don't get me wrong...I'm thrilled to have GAs and I'll be fine wherever I end up (assuming I can both see and breathe). But the bottome line is that I don't think a lottery is fair. I think I've fully explained why I feel that way, so I'm done for now.