Blue Room said:I can’t believe this thread even exists. The day after I posted the clips here and found people were taking it serious (IE that they may be specifically for the new album.) I explained the nature and context of my post and had the clips deleted by the Mods. Go back and read through that thread. Honestly that should have been the end of it IMO. I’m not a newbie here, why would I come here and try to perpetuate some huge elaborate hoax? I wouldn’t and I didn’t. Thanks for the negativity at me by some, you did not read or understand the context and my explanation in the other thread obviously or simply chose to ignore it. I posted a shorter clip of the same on another site previously with almost no reaction. So it was not even a new clip to the net!
The clips are U2 working on new material. I’m not offering any further detail. Hypothesize, downplay, doubt and speculate as much as you want. I am not planning to post any other clips. Why on earth would I at this point? It appears by some of the recent posts it would bore a lot of you anyway. It is not Melbourne 97 after all!
Moving on.
You're such an insider.
One last time.
I posted to clarify again as there was a new thread devoted to what I had posted and was misconstrued. That is it. You can all think what you want, but you are flat out wrong if you think I posted again to stir things up.
I'm not trying to play a victim. But I cannot believe the animosity and/or rudeness that is conveyed when someone has something or posts something you do not have. You are right, U2 fans here cannot handle things. I should have known better.
Honestly, I have all kinds of U2 material, so do a lot of people I know, some of them even posted in this thread. I posted a clip in jest on the thread of something I HAD POSTED BEFORE on another site! It was out there. I clarified right away that I was kidding about it being part of the new recording sessions. Honestly, I do not know what will be on the next album. I don't think the band could tell you at this point. I'm not saying or even implying I know anything about what U2 are doing right now in the studio or that I'm connected with what is going on right now.
U2 fans can be some of the best on the planet. But we can be some of the most "I'm entitled" bunch of jerks also. Maybe I did not handle this the best. But I'm telling you, A LOT of you completely overreacted to it also and are really making accusatory statements about me that simply are not true and are ridiculous.
Lesson learned.
JamietheEdgefan said:I think the problem was, you clarified you were kidding, but didn't actually clarify where the music came from. So even though people knew you weren't suggesting it was gonna be on the next album, or was the next single, we still knew nothing about it, and it was still all-new music.
So it was only natural for people to be curious. I may be wrong about this, but the general reaction from people here (and on other sites) seemed to just be one of curiosity and excitement (which is fair enough because, hey, new u2 material). You may have clarified you were joking about it being new, but it was still unheard of to us - and without any further details, for all we knew it still could or can be new.
Regardless, it was very cool of you to post the new material, and i don't think you were doing it to wind any of us up. I just think it could've helped to explain where the material came from, or if you can't, at least explain that you couldn't, because without doing so (and i'm sure you didn't intend this) it made you seem deliberately evasive, as if you wanted us kept in the dark, unable to find out what these tracks were.
I don't think anyone minded that is was all a joke. But telling us it was a joke didn't stop it being a mystery where these new tracks came from. We were just curious... if you had told us the source (or told us that you couldn't), that would've been the end of it, but there was no... 'resolution' to the question. I think just clarifying the source is what everyone wanted!
One last time.
I posted to clarify again as there was a new thread devoted to what I had posted and was misconstrued. That is it. You can all think what you want, but you are flat out wrong if you think I posted again to stir things up.
I'm not trying to play a victim. But I cannot believe the animosity and/or rudeness that is conveyed when someone has something or posts something you do not have. You are right, U2 fans here cannot handle things. I should have known better.
Honestly, I have all kinds of U2 material, so do a lot of people I know, some of them even posted in this thread. I posted a clip in jest on the thread of something I HAD POSTED BEFORE on another site! It was out there. I clarified right away that I was kidding about it being part of the new recording sessions. Honestly, I do not know what will be on the next album. I don't think the band could tell you at this point. I'm not saying or even implying I know anything about what U2 are doing right now in the studio or that I'm connected with what is going on right now.
U2 fans can be some of the best on the planet. But we can be some of the most "I'm entitled" bunch of jerks also. Maybe I did not handle this the best. But I'm telling you, A LOT of you completely overreacted to it also and are really making accusatory statements about me that simply are not true and are ridiculous.
Lesson learned.
It's mainly just confusing. Blue Room, you seem to deny the legitimacy of these clips as something interesting, but by their very nature they are interesting. They're unreleased clips. Even if they're not guaranteed to be on the next album, they definitely sound recent, and U2 don't tend to work on music (even in its early stages) without any even far-out goal of it reaching another stage. So I personally am just left incredibly confused by this.
It's mainly just confusing. Blue Room, you seem to deny the legitimacy of these clips as something interesting, but by their very nature they are interesting. They're unreleased clips. Even if they're not guaranteed to be on the next album, they definitely sound recent, and U2 don't tend to work on music (even in its early stages) without any even far-out goal of it reaching another stage. So I personally am just left incredibly confused by this.
I think the problem was, you clarified you were kidding, but didn't actually clarify where the music came from. So even though people knew you weren't suggesting it was gonna be on the next album, or was the next single, we still knew nothing about it, and it was still all-new music.
So it was only natural for people to be curious. I may be wrong about this, but the general reaction from people here (and on other sites) seemed to just be one of curiosity and excitement (which is fair enough because, hey, new u2 material). You may have clarified you were joking about it being new, but it was still unheard of to us - and without any further details, for all we knew it still could or can be new.
Regardless, it was very cool of you to post the new material, and i don't think you were doing it to wind any of us up. I just think it could've helped to explain where the material came from, or if you can't, at least explain that you couldn't, because without doing so (and i'm sure you didn't intend this) it made you seem deliberately evasive, as if you wanted us kept in the dark, unable to find out what these tracks were.
I don't think anyone minded that is was all a joke. But telling us it was a joke didn't stop it being a mystery where these new tracks came from. We were just curious... if you had told us the source (or told us that you couldn't), that would've been the end of it, but there was no... 'resolution' to the question. I think just clarifying the source is what everyone wanted!
I think you're really missing the point. Unless I'm missing something no one is upset that it was a "joke", no one is upset because they thought these were definite songs for the next album. People just wanted to know the source, that's all. It's only natural.
Anytime anyone leaks new info or breaks a story, the public wants to know the source. Context brings legitimacy, that's just how it works. Being evasive or flat out ignoring that brings distrust. I'm sure you have your reasons, but honestly I can't think of one off the top of my head, for not telling, but don't play victim about it. You introduced new music to the public, and the fact that you aren't willing to explain it's context looks shady to people.
It's mainly just confusing. Blue Room, you seem to deny the legitimacy of these clips as something interesting, but by their very nature they are interesting. They're unreleased clips. Even if they're not guaranteed to be on the next album, they definitely sound recent, and U2 don't tend to work on music (even in its early stages) without any even far-out goal of it reaching another stage. So I personally am just left incredibly confused by this.
To add on to what others have said in the last few posts, I think calling people "entitled" is completely missing the point. Save the "entitled" stuff for when people are whining about tapers not sharing shows or something.
Not for expressing completely unsurprising curiosity and excitement about little clips you shared, joke or no.
Don't be that confused. U2 always work on music in early stages during soundchecks, which, if I were a betting man, I'd bet that this is from a soundcheck, again, not even necessarily from the 360 era, but any era from Elevation onward. I said that before and I stand by it. U2 like to just jam sometimes before concerts, and this could very well be (and likely might just be) a soundcheck jam.
Don't overthink this. This is not Salome 2012 as some people have said across the interwebs.
popacrobat said:Don't be that confused. U2 always work on music in early stages during soundchecks, which, if I were a betting man, I'd bet that this is from a soundcheck, again, not even necessarily from the 360 era, but any era from Elevation onward. I said that before and I stand by it. U2 like to just jam sometimes before concerts, and this could very well be (and likely might just be) a soundcheck jam.
Don't overthink this. This is not Salome 2012 as some people have said across the interwebs.
The clips are U2 working on new material. I’m not offering any further detail. Hypothesize, downplay, doubt and speculate as much as you want. I am not planning to post any other clips. Why on earth would I at this point? It appears by some of the recent posts it would bore a lot of you anyway. It is not Melbourne 97 after all!
Moving on.
I can’t believe this thread even exists.
See, some of the posts I did read were very negative claiming that if it was a joke someone might get hurt or in trouble, something like that. They were not all of the curiosity type questions that some of you are saying, which I do and would understand. I clarified again to the people that appear to have been "offended" by me joking about this in the other thread and offer as much of an explanation as I want to. I figured trying to clarify that again was better than just letting the thread go with no response at all. I was not trying to upset or offend anyone and that was my point and I certainly did not intend for it to spiral into all this garbage. I did not come to this thread to stir things up again, like some of you accused me of. I wasn't trying to stir anything up to begin with! I posted further here and my response was not good enough for some of you, so again, it got somewhat negative (even though some of you claim it wasn't). That tone is definately there or is blatant whether you want to admit it or not. That is what I mean by entitlement. Like you are entitled to more information or you are going to be derogatory if you don't get it. I offered my explanation and that is not good enough for a lot of you.
I'm not offering any further information, I said that several times. I do not know how much clearer I can be. I have my reasons and I do not need to explain them to you at this point. Sorry if you think I'm a "troll" for not giving you all the info you desire. But there it is.
Fire away. I'm going to TRY to avoid this thread now or at a minimum not post anymore in it (I don't want to continue to "stir things up").
Sorry if you think I'm a "troll" for not giving you all the info you desire. But there it is.
The clips are U2 working on new material. I’m not offering any further detail. Hypothesize, downplay, doubt and speculate as much as you want. I am not planning to post any other clips. Why on earth would I at this point? It appears by some of the recent posts it would bore a lot of you anyway.
so... do you have any other clips?
and by saying
"I am not planning to post any other clips. Why on earth would I at this point? It appears by some of the recent posts it would bore a lot of you anyway"
you're implying there are other clips which you won't post here now boo hoo dot com
Ok, there are no more clips. Does that make you happy?
thanks! but why imply that there are then??
that's the definition of trolling to me...
My brain hurts.