WalkOn21 said:Well he's right at one point: the public does seem to think their fame's more important than their music. Didn't Bono do a speech at the Democratic Convention while Kerry was running for president? And did he sing anything? No he didn't, he was just there "to be the famous person" backing Kerry.
Utoo said:by the way, last week Clapton said: "Porcupine Tree suck!"
Flying FuManchu said:I'm not saying Clapton didn't make those comments or that he doesn't have a negative/ positive opinion of U2 but is this source even reliable considering its a report on another interview and we're not even able to read the actual interview to view the context of the statements. I understand the print media are 100% reliable and don't have a sensationalistic bone but I would love to read the actual interview.
namkcuR said:Do we really need a thread of outrage every time somebody says something negative about U2?
U2DMfan said:If you can't read a criticism of U2 and cast it off then you just need to get real or grow up or both.
Diemen said:I don't understand why we get so worked up over what other people think of U2. A lot of people out there either don't get what U2 does or just plain don't like it. It is what it is. It doesn't mean those people are assholes. Clapton is a legend, so let's not try and call him a nobody simply because we don't like his opinion on U2. People can think and say things we don't like and still be good people.
Moving on...
MrBrau1 said:Who cares?
doctorwho said:
Clapton is comparing U2 to "American Idol". Huh?
U2Fanatic4ever said:
Eric Clapton hits out at Coldplay and U2
Wednesday, May 17 2006, 14:48 BST - by Fiona Edwards
Eric Clapton disapproves of bands like U2 and Coldplay as they seem
to put their fame before their music.
The 61-year-old guitar legend told The Times: "Right now, the power
of music sits with Simon Cowell and Coldplay and U2, who are really
people who just attend awards shows.
"From just listening I can't tell the difference between Coldplay and
U2. The one in Coldplay even dances like Bono."
Clapton said that he's also worried that modern bands are forgetting
where rock and roll has come from.
He said: "I think what it shows is how incredibly detached all the
current stuff is from its roots. What worries me about what's going
on now is that people don't know where it's all come from, and I
don't suppose they're that interested."
Bono's shades said:I think the last remnant of affection I once had for Eric Clapton went out the window.
I don't really care if people criticize U2. I don't think they are above criticism. I just hate cheap shots. I kind of wish U2 wouldn't show up at every awards show kissing everyone's ass too, but it's not like they don't do anything else in the meantime! And as nauseating as it is sometimes I'd rather have U2 kissing everyone's ass than taking cheap shots at other musicians.
doctorwho said:
NEVER!
Oh, and I like your new avatar picture.
I'm not "worked up" about it. I just find it odd that legends like the late George Harrison or now, Eric Clapton, feel the need to lash out at U2 - and then compare them to some one- or two-album wonders.
Harrison compared U2 to the Spice Girls. Clapton is comparing U2 to "American Idol". Huh? What's up with that?
I would be just as annoyed if in 10 years, U2 are comparing the big established acts of the day (say Coldplay) to some young one-hit wonder artist. U2 have never insulted any artist by name. They have, at times, stated how they do not prefer certain music - and that is fine. If Clapton simply said he's not into U2's music, no problem. I have not like almost any of Clapton's solo music - I find it boring and uninspirational (while his work with Cream was ). But I won't compare him to the flavors of the year. When Clapton won his Album of the Year Grammy in 1993 (for releases in the Sept. 1991-Sept. 1992 time frame), imagine if we compared him to one of the big grunge acts of the month - not a good group, but clearly a copycat that would be gone within a year! Clapton fans would be screaming! Worse, though, is that it's Clapton himself saying these things. I know I wouldn't accept it if Bono or Edge started saying these types of comments - and I hold Clapton and Harrison to that level of scrutiny as well.
Just as Clapton complains that Bono has pushed some government heads too much (and, uh, exactly what's wrong with that? If we pushed politicians a bit more, maybe we wouldn't have as much war and irresponsible spending as we do now.), what gives Clapton the right to say that? In other words, Clapton is making a political comment by complaining about another political comment! The irony is too rich even for U2!
So ultimately, what annoys me are these cheap shots by legends who are not only failing to acknowledge another legend, but are also being hypocritical. If they aren't into an artist - cool. I don't see why they need to make that public, unless asked specifically, but I don't care about it. We all have our musical tastes. But this seems like Clapton's way of gaining some attention and I'm not sure of his goals here (just as I was confused about Harrison's goals in 1997). In both cases, it makes these legends look petty and envious.
namkcuR said:Do we really need a thread of outrage every time somebody says something negative about U2? Honestly, who cares?
Axver said:
Clapton just phoned me and said "you know that Utoo guy? I really hate how he thinks he's funny. What a fool! He's worse than Coldplay."
Good grief, people. Does NO ONE here know anything about logic, argumenting, etc? Because that's not really a counter-argument to my post.cypress said:
You conveniently forget that Bono, while liberal in many of his views, remains non-partisan. You conveniently forget that he also appeared at the Republican National Convention. So much for that bogus argument, eh?
WalkOn21 said:Good grief, people. Does NO ONE here know anything about logic, argumenting, etc?
My facts weren't wrong, they were incomplete. And that wasn't even deliberate, I truly didn't know he appeared @ the Republican Convention too.BonoVoxSupastar said:
You mean like getting your facts wrong?