A_Wanderer
ONE love, blood, life
Well the (Australian) election is already well upon us. I just wanted to know what people think about this real f***ed up Family First party. The entire thing is a front for the Assemblies of God
Here is their statement on the matter, one may find that at odds with the facts.
> Pornography: Enforce national ban on X Rated Videos. A Mandatory Filtering Scheme at the ISP Server Level to remove all pornography from Australian internet connections. Now I for one think that such censorship goes beyond the role of the government, criminal instances such as rape, children etc. they can be banned and those using tracked down and punished to the full extent of the law but to have blanket censorship, thats not good - freedom of choice, I do not want the government to become the moral police.
> Embryonic Stem Cells: Why should Government funding be wasted on the unethical pursuit of the unscientific equivalent of the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?. Now honestly, if you have research into something which may yield such benefits is it not better to pursue. It is not unethical to use embryo's leftover from IVF for such research.
> Oppose of official recognition of same sex relationships, again basically everything that I argued in the locked "controversial spanish marriage initiative threadf'.
> Oppose late term abortion on demand
> Prohibit the import and use of RU 486 abortion pill
> Strengthen ABA to enforce moral standards on TV & Radio, moral standards again, what does this mean. Would Buffy or Angel suddenly become morally unacceptable because they are "satanic" and created by a 'gasp' atheist (Joss Whedon; good writer). Maybe video games with blood will be outlawed and relaced with those wierd christian ones, /shudder.
> Overturn ratification of International Criminal Court, I see no reason to do this at all. As much as I do not like the UN or some of the principles of international law there is an important place to test it. If it fails then we can have some proof of why the UN should be scrapped.
> Introduction of Young Earth creationism into the science curriculum in the name of balance this one gets me pissed off, the most unscientific set of lies and distortions given time next to actual science in the name of "equality", One may as well attempt to teach science in a theology class. This ties in with the Answers in Genesis crowd. Ignorance in the name of God - it sickens me.
I detest religion interfering in governance, now this is not anywhere near the levels one finds in political Isalm but it would be a step in the wrong direction if such a party were to gain enough power to hold sway. They represent minor authoritarianism, using the tools of government to control peoples morals and restrict their choice. I do not like it one bit, give me a party that I agree with, Labour spends too much (medicare gold is ludicrous, I do not want to be paying for blanket healthcare for the over 75's, Liberal is going nuts on spending. I just want a party that sees a limited role of government, one that does not interfere into peoples lives, that is based on reason not belief and a few other policies that would just derail this thread.
Anyway religious parties
http://www.familyfirst.org.au/
http://baliset.blogspot.com/2004/10/family-first-one-christians-view.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/05/1096871859778.html?oneclick=true
Here is their statement on the matter, one may find that at odds with the facts.
I do not like this religious political party, their attitudes and policies are obviously a direct offshoot of Christian Fundamentalism and should have no place within secular governance.The party is not a church party or an Assembly of God party, nor is it funded by AOG churches. It does see itself as SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE, with Family Values based on Christian ethics. Like any main-stream party we do not have on record the religious affiliations of any of our members. The Board of Reference in South Australia includes business-people, members of the medical profession, as well as ministers and people from Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran and other church groups. The rapid national growth of the party leding into this election and the late decision to contest in all seats possible, has meant that in some states there are candidates, with strong family values, who have been introduced to the party through personal relationships they have from their involvement in community/church networks.
> Pornography: Enforce national ban on X Rated Videos. A Mandatory Filtering Scheme at the ISP Server Level to remove all pornography from Australian internet connections. Now I for one think that such censorship goes beyond the role of the government, criminal instances such as rape, children etc. they can be banned and those using tracked down and punished to the full extent of the law but to have blanket censorship, thats not good - freedom of choice, I do not want the government to become the moral police.
> Embryonic Stem Cells: Why should Government funding be wasted on the unethical pursuit of the unscientific equivalent of the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?. Now honestly, if you have research into something which may yield such benefits is it not better to pursue. It is not unethical to use embryo's leftover from IVF for such research.
> Oppose of official recognition of same sex relationships, again basically everything that I argued in the locked "controversial spanish marriage initiative threadf'.
> Oppose late term abortion on demand
> Prohibit the import and use of RU 486 abortion pill
> Strengthen ABA to enforce moral standards on TV & Radio, moral standards again, what does this mean. Would Buffy or Angel suddenly become morally unacceptable because they are "satanic" and created by a 'gasp' atheist (Joss Whedon; good writer). Maybe video games with blood will be outlawed and relaced with those wierd christian ones, /shudder.
> Overturn ratification of International Criminal Court, I see no reason to do this at all. As much as I do not like the UN or some of the principles of international law there is an important place to test it. If it fails then we can have some proof of why the UN should be scrapped.
> Introduction of Young Earth creationism into the science curriculum in the name of balance this one gets me pissed off, the most unscientific set of lies and distortions given time next to actual science in the name of "equality", One may as well attempt to teach science in a theology class. This ties in with the Answers in Genesis crowd. Ignorance in the name of God - it sickens me.
I detest religion interfering in governance, now this is not anywhere near the levels one finds in political Isalm but it would be a step in the wrong direction if such a party were to gain enough power to hold sway. They represent minor authoritarianism, using the tools of government to control peoples morals and restrict their choice. I do not like it one bit, give me a party that I agree with, Labour spends too much (medicare gold is ludicrous, I do not want to be paying for blanket healthcare for the over 75's, Liberal is going nuts on spending. I just want a party that sees a limited role of government, one that does not interfere into peoples lives, that is based on reason not belief and a few other policies that would just derail this thread.
Anyway religious parties
http://www.familyfirst.org.au/
http://baliset.blogspot.com/2004/10/family-first-one-christians-view.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/05/1096871859778.html?oneclick=true
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