coemgen said:Let me know what you find out.
I shall publish it in every scientific journal that no one will read.
When in doubt, use sarcasm.
What sarcasm?
You want so badly to label me as a hater. Is that what this disccusion has boiled down to? You shouldn't let emotions get into a good debate. Again, as I've said repeatedly, I'm just seeking to understand it before I support one way or the other. I think that's the case for most people. There's no hatred here or homophobia or whatever you want to throw at me -- just understanding. And yes, we do vote on this matter. It's called the amendment to ban gay marriage. It's been passed in nearly every state that's put it on the ballot. Some people might've voted it down out of hatred or fear. Not me. I need to understand it before I vote for it. Right now, there's not a lot out there for me to form a conclusive opinon. That's all I'm seeking. If it's such a big issue, why isn't there a healthy debate going on on TV, in print and elsewhere? Gay people saying "I'm born this way," isn't good enough for me, personally. (Again, to stress that, it's just me. One person.) Of course, the sad thing is that there may not be healthy dialogue or discussion or an open study on it because it's all political. And yes, I'm sincere when I say it's sad.
It sounds like you've made your mind up. That's how you've written it, at least. The kind of proof burden you're expecting is far beyond the proof needed to sentence a criminal suspect to death. So with such purposely unrealistic expectations, how is anyone supposed to reach them?
Your mind is essentially made up.
If I told you you were "abnormal" and that, in absence of "conclusive scientific studies" that you were not allowed to get married, what would you say? Would you want to wait the 50 years it might take to adequately decipher the human genome? By that time, you'll be old and most of your life will be gone. But hey...we don't want to be hasty here.
Even then, we have plenty of studies regarding sexuality. Those arguments about sexual abuse and distant fathers are several decades old, and every credible scientist abandoned those positions 35 years ago. They're disproven and unrelated, just, as I said before, you're apt to find numerous heterosexuals who've experienced sexual abuse or distant fathers in a packed arena setting.
But that isn't enough for you. No, we need "more studies."
Like I said, your mind is made up. Even if you don't wish to admit it.
What's sad about all of this is that you see a debate, and I see people who are genuinely hurt by your positions. But excuse me for being an uppity minority.
And, by the way, the "amendment to ban gay marriage" (hey...I thought it was about "defending marriage"?) failed in Arizona. I know, I know. That isn't worthy of front page news.
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