80sU2isBest said:
It's not some "shite", Se7en. It's Biblical. The Bible makes it very clear that when a person becomes a Christian, he is "born again". He actually becomes a "new creation". The old man (the sin nature) is crucified, and a new nature takes its place. The person now has the Holy Spirit within him.
So, how could a person who is "born again", a new creation, having the new nature, go back to having a sin nature? The sin nature is crucifed, dead.
This is my belief: You can't change from Christianity to another religion like you change your underwear. Once Saved, Always Saved.
financeguy said:
Can't you leave ANYTHING alone??
Fundamentalists like you are exactly the problem with today's world.
Se7en said:so, to clarify- was i never a christian in the first place or am i still a christian regardless of how i may feel now?
edgeboy said:Thanks for all the support and info. I mean it's not a done deal or anything but I mean I have a pretty irish last name i dont know of many irish jews.
edgeboy said:All of it. Again,im simply giving this some thought that's all.
edgeboy said:Thanks for all the support and info. I mean it's not a done deal or anything but I mean I have a pretty irish last name i dont know of many irish jews.
Se7en said:so, to clarify- was i never a christian in the first place or am i still a christian regardless of how i may feel now?
DreamOutLoud13 said:I felt like nothing but a sinner.
Angela Harlem said:I'm interested in learning about Judaism. Not sure if it is to become Jewish, but everything about me (apparently) points to a belief in it. Given this, I'd like to know more. One day I hope to learn about it. I feel like I know absolutely nothing about it (or any, for that matter), currently, and well, I'm curious.
80s or anyone, how do you confess?
I mean literally. If I were to, for arguments sake, the things which constitute sin in your Bible are about 3 solid days worth (or probably much more) of continual talking in list form of what I've done wrong in my life. I'm serious, it's a bad long arsed list. I've wished bad on people, been vain, gloated, been lazy, I've done everything (in large doses) which makes me a hell bad sinner. I've obviously never physically harmed someone or coveted my neighbour's ass (I'll refrain from joking) - actually jealousy is one thing I thankfully dont suffer from. still, how do you do it? Do you do some loophole confession which covers it all such as "forgive me for all my sins" or do you literally list them? I'm sure I'm not even aware of half of mine. Which leads me to the next question. Few people are aware of exactly what they are. Lets take judging. I'm bad for judging people. I think I do it all the time, and most likely more than I could possibly realise. I see a whole lot of judgement in Christians. The odds of them seeing just how it is, is not great - we all fail to see what we really are, I reckon. I've even seen Christians flat out deny they judge people (in here is a good example), when clearly they are doing nothing but judging others. You cant really be clean and free if you dont even acknowledge your faults, right?
In short, how do you confess to something you wont/cant even acknowledge?
80sU2isBest said:
I have no idea if you are a Christian or not; only you and God know if you actually gave your life to him or if it was just an emotional experiment.
But if you were really a Christian, I truly believe that you still are.
starsgoblue said:
The main issue I have with all of this is that Jesus never called himself a Christian, in fact the distinction was never made until much later. When Jesus died, he never labeled himself as anything other than a Jew....
starsgoblue said:
The main issue I have with all of this is that Jesus never called himself a Christian, in fact the distinction was never made until much later. When Jesus died, he never labeled himself as anything other than a Jew....
Angela Harlem said:
Glad I'm not the only one who's wondered this!
Here's a dumb question for you folk. How did there ever become Christianity? I've often wondered, but figured the answer was too obvious and I was just thick. Seems if you want 'religion' you stay with the Jesus story and therefore the Jewish caper as well.
And if anyone answers, can I have a shortened version? Not a wikipedia cut and paste.
80sU2isBest said:
Jesus never called himself a Christian because he is the Christ (The Messiah).
No one was a Christian until after Christ died, because one of the requirements of being a Christian is believing that Christ died and rose back to life.
You're right, Jesus was a Jew. But he labeled himself as much more than that. He labeled himself as "The Son Of God", "One with the Father", "The Way, the Truth, The Life" and more.
starsgoblue said:
I don't see how these two logically relate.
starsgoblue said:
Christ never said his followers were to be called Christian. The term was given much later in the Bible and in history.
starsgoblue said:Yes, but that doesn't solve the question of the differentiation from "Judiasm" to "Christianity". He proclaimed how the faith was being peverted and abused.
A_Wanderer said:What if it were proved that he was a fabricated figure?
Angela Harlem said:If it were ever proved that Jesus was just a man, but a man with great ideals, would your view change much? Ie, no immaculate conception, no son of God, no rising from the dead, etc.
maycocksean said:Granted proving God is all but impossible. But disproving Him is as well, unless you accept that the absence of proof is rock solid evidence that something that does not exist. For the believer there is sufficient evidence to base faith upon. For the those who do not believe, there may never be enough evidence.