BrownEyedBoy
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BonoVoxSupastar said:
What am I ignoring?
Once again, answer this, what does rape have to do with sex?
It demonstrates how men view sex.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
What am I ignoring?
Once again, answer this, what does rape have to do with sex?
BonoVoxSupastar said:Rape demonstrates how men views sex?
Wow, I'm lost.
BrownEyedBoy said:
It demonstrates how men view sex.
phillyfan26 said:More than are reported, less than men.
What does it have to do with sex?
BrownEyedBoy said:
How many women are rapists?
BrownEyedBoy said:
Would it be safe to infer that because there are less female rapists then male rapists that women view sex differently than men? And that difference however ample or small it may be is enough to completely refute whoever said that since "women don't min sleeping in the same tent as lesbians" that men should be able to do the same. Again, I'm not implying that every man is a potential rapist. All I'm saying is that women are more comfortable with being in a position like that then men are whether you like it or not. The way you guys are acting it seems like I'm saying gay people shouldn't be allowed in the Boy Scouts at all. All I''m trying to suggest that because of their orientation that they should have their own privacy just like women have their privacy from men and men from women.
BrownEyedBoy said:
The way you guys are acting it seems like I'm saying gay people shouldn't be allowed in the Boy Scouts at all. All I''m trying to suggest that because of their orientation that they should have their own privacy just like women have their privacy from men and men from women.
phillyfan26 said:
No, it would not be safe to assume that. Rapists are an anomaly. It's not the commonplace. Rapists are corrupted individuals, for reasons that in some cases are not their fault, and in some cases are their fault. But they reflect nothing on men as a whole, let alone man's view of sex.
And you seem to confuse gender with sexual orientation. Why are the two related to you?
BrownEyedBoy said:Could it be because, in most cases, gender determines sexual orientation?
BrownEyedBoy said:
Could it be because, in most cases, gender determines sexual orientation?
phillyfan26 said:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
BrownEyedBoy said:You asked me how gender and sexual orientation are related and I merely answered that in most cases, gender determines sexual orientation. Boys, in most cases - except apparently when you ask someone in FYM - like girls, and viceversa.
BonoVoxSupastar said:But rape(not date rape) has very little to do with sex. It has to do with power.
BrownEyedBoy said:
You asked me how gender and sexual orientation are related and I merely answered that in most cases, gender determines sexual orientation. Boys, in most cases - except apparently when you ask someone in FYM - like girls, and viceversa.
phillyfan26 said:
2) What the hell does "when you ask someone in FYM" mean?
phillyfan26 said:
Gender means nothing with hetero- or homo- sexuality.
phillyfan26 said:You clearly seem to not understand what I'm saying.
I'm not denying that most people are heterosexual at all.
I don't understand what your point about gender and orientation is though.
That's what I'm saying: Your point makes no sense.
ETA: And I love how suddenly I'm the one who's "passionate and biased."
anitram said:Boys and girls (at least in the Western setting) have not been culturally groomed to shower together, and therefore it is seen as unacceptable much like walking around topless (for women) is not something you would see on our streets.
Boys do shower together and women shower together and there are gay men and lesbians among them that you may be unaware of.
phillyfan26 said:Oh, so because we've always been "weirded out" by gays "for centuries" because we thought they were sinners or some other kind of religious garbage, it's OK to discriminate?
It's been explained already that the separation was not because of intimacy.
martha said:
Don't kid yourself on the date rape thing. It's all about power.
BrownEyedBoy said:
except apparently when you ask someone in FYM - like girls, and viceversa.
BrownEyedBoy said:My point with gender and orientation is that it makes people uncomfortable to have intimacy with strangers of the opposite sexual orientation. And I believe that's perfectly normal.
So if men and women, who have been separated for centuries because of their orientation, are separated in intimacy than so should homosexuals.
phillyfan26 said:Wrong.
You ask women if they would be comfortable showering in the same showers as gay women.
And most men have showered with a gay already, so what's the big deal?
BrownEyedBoy said:Like I said before, women view sex differently than men. That is why you're opposite of women being asked if they are comfortable showering with lesbians doesn't apply.
In order for there to be uncomfortableness there has to be a man involved. Because men view sex differently than women. Go ahead and ask a woman if she would feel uncomfortable showering with straight men and if she says yes please tell her I feel offended because of her presumption that us straight males "cannot control ourselves."
BrownEyedBoy said:
It means that everywhere else in the world people will tell you that "generally" people are born heterosexuals and that if you ask someone in FYM who views the issue with passionate and biased eyes you get this response: