nbcrusader
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kobayashi said:this is turning into a q&a with nbc and the sinners.
Careful. I am just as much a sinner as anyone else here.
kobayashi said:this is turning into a q&a with nbc and the sinners.
DrTeeth said:Ah, but what about the old days, and people who have never heard about Jesus?
kobayashi said:ive never felt a 'need' for God. what does that mean for me?
U2democrat said:I don't think anybody knows the ACTUAL answer.
nbcrusader said:
Careful. I am just as much a sinner as anyone else here.
MaxFisher said:If you are not a believer than why does it matter to you if God will be the bigger person?
Mrs. Edge said:Why it matters is that if God is supposed to be perfect and all loving, you'd think he could put asside his ego and be willing to forgive and accept ALL the people he created and not pick and choose. Because there are some NON believers who don't believe for a good reason, but that doesn't make them less deserving of entry than a "sinning" believer imo.
nbcrusader said:I think there is no room around Jesus' own words in John 14:6. [/B]
anitram said:Many people, including scholars would disagree with you on a number of accounts. Just from personal memory of courses I'd taken - some argue that you cannot possibly assert with 100% certainty that Jesus said this (or other things attributed to him) verbatim, some argue that you cannot assert that Jesus was speaking universally rather than to the local population struggling with particular issues at that particular time in the world's history, etc.
stammer476 said:For the second part, it's a little unclear. It is likely that their state falls under the same category as those who lived before Christ, in that their are judged based on their faith and action in following God. There is a large debate on this in Christianity, with the other two options being 1.) they are condemned; 2.) there will be a special scenario that God has planned that we know nothing about.
Originally posted by nbcrusader
When we say God is Holy, it means that God cannot have sin in His presense.
Jesus is the propitiation for our sins. When God looks at the believe, He does not see us, he sees Jesus.
Thus, we can be admitted into His presense.
nbcrusader said:In that case, we can disassemble and discard the entire Gospel, creating God in our own image - all in the name of scholarship.
nbcrusader said:I guess we would have to open a discussion of what constitutes a Christian and the belief set that is indisputable. [/B]
anitram said:Christianity as a religion is far to split.
Why it matters is that if God is supposed to be perfect and all loving, you'd think he could put asside his ego and be willing to forgive and accept ALL the people he created and not pick and choose. Because there are some NON believers who don't believe for a good reason, but that doesn't make them less deserving of entry than a "sinning" believer imo.
shrmn8rpoptart said:I have a question for some people...how does one accept Jesus? if an action that i perform is responsible for my salvation, doesn't that mean that I have the power to save my own soul, and that I don't need Christ? this is the whole "decision theology" that I find a little backwards, but nonetheless, i would like to be educated on the matter...
It has been explained to me that we are all Lazerus...that is we are all dead in sin, yet we are given life again through Christ. But Lazerus did not choose to live again, his resurrection was done completely without him. However, once he became alive again, he still had the power to commit suicide. So we are dead in sin, but are resurrected through Christ without any effort on our part. The only "choice" that we can make is to turn away from God.
blueyedpoet said:If we take the Calvin line of logic we arrive at a very dangerous place: none of us are morally responsible.
If we do not have choice (real choice) then it is to be said that we are without free will. And, without free will it is impossible to be held responsible for our will. I can explain this in greater detail if anyone wants.
Keep up the good work.U2democrat said:nbcrusader you're doing a greaet job contributing to this thread.
After trying to live my life as an atheist for a year, I realized how empty I was without him. Without God, the world is dark. With God, you have faith in what the world may find impossible - eternal life. I also believe that God created man, rather than the other way around. In return for this, I believe that we owe ourselves to God rather than this miserable world. The world is so dark, so far from God to understand the meaning of life. The meaning of life for me is unconditional forgiveness, unconditional love, and unconditional truth.kobayashi said:ive never felt a 'need' for God. what does that mean for me?