DaveC
Blue Crack Addict
that was an effect on the video itself, not anything inside the arena.
Augmented Reality?
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that was an effect on the video itself, not anything inside the arena.
innominata8
War Child
But wasn't that clip filmed during Iris? And I don't remember seeing anything on the screen to 'trigger' it.
DaveC
Blue Crack Addict
it's just a filter on the instagram video.
That's not AR. At least I really don't think so. That's way too immersive to be an AR effect that could fit comfortably on the average user's cell phone.
If that were an AR effect, or just generally speaking if they were planning on using AR tech throughout the show, this already large app would be absolutely gigantic.
I don't think it's an Instagram filter, either. To me it just looks like some rapid fire spots and a fog effect. You can see the spots above the main stage going up and down in synch with the effects.
Nick66
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Actual test footage of U2 AR SOE App in action.
innominata8
War Child
I still maintain it looks like a storm on the ocean with rain, etc... As far as it being a 'filter', I am not too tech savvy and just signed on to instagram last week. I have no idea what filters are.
innominata8
War Child
Of course it makes no sense to hype this more or less useless app. But it's U2. Not everything makes sense
But think back to the announecement made after they dropped SOI, about working on an app that would enhance the experience of listening to an album. Maybe the plan is or was to use this app more extensively in the future. Maybe that plan didn't quite work out the way they hoped so they preferred to use it for this rather than throw it away. We don't know that. The fact that they launched this app that is quite unspectacular does absolutely not exclude further AR elements. Since those would not use the app (they clearly stated what the app was for), what's left? Yep, right, holograms
I believe the plan was to use AR extensively. Whether they managed to pull it off or not, we will see. That's kind of what U2songs is hinting at. So while I'm disappointed by this app, there's some hope left. I really hope that's not it in terms of AR. Would be kinda ridiculous.
Ok we need to stop this.
Nobody refers to holograms as AR, even if they technically fit the definition. When people refer to AR tech in the general public they are 99.9% referring to exactly what we got - an app on a phone that adds some goofy shit to the user's environment, as seen through their camera. Nothing more.
The app has already been pulled apart - all that's there is approximately 5-6 minutes of content.
5-6 minutes of content took up a quarter of a gig. If we're talking multiple songs, were talking about an app that would need to take up multiple gigs worth of space, not to mention something that would take up large swaths of the phone's memory. This is not realistic in any way.
Could they update to add another song? Sure, it's possible. Multiple songs? That would require everyone in the audience to have a top of the line cell phone with lots of excess storage and minimal apps running in the background. Possible? Sure. A likely scenario, or even a smart move? No. U2 have done many stupid things recently, so I don't totally discount that they would release an app that the overwhelming majority of people couldn't use, but it's incredibly unlikely.
What's in the Iris Instagram video is also, in no way shape or form, a hologram.
Could they be projecting things on to fog? Yes, possible. They've done it before - but where would they be able to place fog machines that could cover the audience? Maybe they built them into the screen. Would be new, but not necessarily that hard to pull off.
The most likely scenario you see there is just some tricky lighting effects.
Next is some kind of filter that the camera is running through - i.e. they used the camera feed that will project onto the video screen that has some digital elements added.
Last is that it's just some wacky Instagram filter.
Nobody refers to holograms as AR, even if they technically fit the definition. When people refer to AR tech in the general public they are 99.9% referring to exactly what we got - an app on a phone that adds some goofy shit to the user's environment, as seen through their camera. Nothing more.
The app has already been pulled apart - all that's there is approximately 5-6 minutes of content.
5-6 minutes of content took up a quarter of a gig. If we're talking multiple songs, were talking about an app that would need to take up multiple gigs worth of space, not to mention something that would take up large swaths of the phone's memory. This is not realistic in any way.
Could they update to add another song? Sure, it's possible. Multiple songs? That would require everyone in the audience to have a top of the line cell phone with lots of excess storage and minimal apps running in the background. Possible? Sure. A likely scenario, or even a smart move? No. U2 have done many stupid things recently, so I don't totally discount that they would release an app that the overwhelming majority of people couldn't use, but it's incredibly unlikely.
What's in the Iris Instagram video is also, in no way shape or form, a hologram.
Could they be projecting things on to fog? Yes, possible. They've done it before - but where would they be able to place fog machines that could cover the audience? Maybe they built them into the screen. Would be new, but not necessarily that hard to pull off.
The most likely scenario you see there is just some tricky lighting effects.
Next is some kind of filter that the camera is running through - i.e. they used the camera feed that will project onto the video screen that has some digital elements added.
Last is that it's just some wacky Instagram filter.
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brooklynmike
Refugee
Zooming into that Instagram clip, it seems like fog with waves projected onto it, and the streaks of light coming down are just from the mirrorball.
brooklynmike
Refugee
Actually, scratch part of that. Now seeing the picture of the screen on “dust on the barricage” post, it’s just the reflection of the screen and light from the mirrorball on the fog. If you zoom in you can see the texture.
corianderstem
Blue Crack Distributor
innominata8
War Child
the clip was recorded during Iris which has been performed after The Ocean. I think the 'light streaks' are rain.
No idea if this is a hologram, but the tech is out there. If so, this would be epic.
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innominata8
War Child
Well, that was a mouthful.
We'll know in a little over a week. I still think somehow they have figured out a different way to incorporate imaging into the show; god knows they/Willie have been huge innovators in concert touring. I watched the video on an OLED screen several times and it looks pretty clear these are images being projected (and, again, i think it is an ocean). I didn't appreciate a 'smoke machine effect'.
Why would they put a filter on a video teaser? Makes no sense. Hologram or not, I do believe something else is coming that doesn't need an app. U2 have always delivered when it came to live performance, staging etc. There is no reason to not trust them now. This little app can't be everything. That would be incredibly lame.
By the way, in all this "no hologram" speech, you completely dismiss the teaser images that were released by Live Nation when tickets went on sale. And those were not some strange, blueish Bono.
By the way, in all this "no hologram" speech, you completely dismiss the teaser images that were released by Live Nation when tickets went on sale. And those were not some strange, blueish Bono.
AndrewCowley
Refugee
They should arrange with Apple for the app to be automatically downloaded and installed onto everyone's phone.
Totally dismiss, first person here to spot the AR elements after they were discussed in an interview a month ago... Same difference
http://www.u2interference.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8250854
shika
Acrobat
Certain (non-U2-loving) members of my family were heard to lament that, first the music was placed there, uninvited, and now, “Bono is fucking crawling out of my phone”. But, whatever.
Oh sorry I don't follow your posts closely enough
I'm talking about this stuff though:
https://www.facebook.com/u2start/photos/pcb.10155811207780831/10155811204990831/?type=3&theater
More specifically the picture with young Bono "in the air" over the main stage, and some other image over the b-stage.
I'm talking about this stuff though:
https://www.facebook.com/u2start/photos/pcb.10155811207780831/10155811204990831/?type=3&theater
More specifically the picture with young Bono "in the air" over the main stage, and some other image over the b-stage.
Right. I mentioned all of that. That's AR. And notice this... the house lights are up in that shot in particular... which lines up with the "in the lead up to the show" part of the app's description.Oh sorry I don't follow your posts closely enough
I'm talking about this stuff though:
https://www.facebook.com/u2start/photos/pcb.10155811207780831/10155811204990831/?type=3&theater
More specifically the picture with young Bono "in the air" over the main stage, and some other image over the b-stage.
Indeed.
Maybe they're part of the AR app, maybe u2 created the first large scale portable 3d hologram projector the world has ever seen and plan to release it with little fanfare in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Only time will tell.
Maybe they're part of the AR app, maybe u2 created the first large scale portable 3d hologram projector the world has ever seen and plan to release it with little fanfare in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Only time will tell.
d.darroch
War Child
Projected holygrams may not be the most common thought when we think of AR, thanks to smartphones & Pokémon Go. But they are certainly a type of augmented reality. I’m with Immo & blue skies, I’m betting there will be more to the AR elements of the show than just a silly app.
We’ve seen the tour trailers with mock ups of hoygrams jumping out of the screen (blue Bono among others). We’ve seen The Ocean during Iris.
I’d bet we’ll have large holygrams projected in front of the screen. I think they’ll be projected on a mesh hanging from the roof (some way away from the top of the screen) attached to the bottom of the screen. I think we may have already seen this projection mesh, & mistaken it for the LED screen.
We may have also seen the projection mesh in the Iris video, though it doesn’t appear to be attached to the screen (maybe, like a filter, it’s just a video edit with two layers, one of the band performing, & one of the holygram).
Certainly wouldn’t be the first large scale holygrams projected at a concert. I’m sure Eric Prydz’s holygrams (especially the spaceman) have been discussed in this thread somewhere. Here’s a good write up about what tech was used. I can certainly see the same tech being used, specifically projecting holygrams onto mesh.
Eric Prydz stuns London with his EPIC 5.0 show | WIRED UK
We’ve seen the tour trailers with mock ups of hoygrams jumping out of the screen (blue Bono among others). We’ve seen The Ocean during Iris.
I’d bet we’ll have large holygrams projected in front of the screen. I think they’ll be projected on a mesh hanging from the roof (some way away from the top of the screen) attached to the bottom of the screen. I think we may have already seen this projection mesh, & mistaken it for the LED screen.
We may have also seen the projection mesh in the Iris video, though it doesn’t appear to be attached to the screen (maybe, like a filter, it’s just a video edit with two layers, one of the band performing, & one of the holygram).
Certainly wouldn’t be the first large scale holygrams projected at a concert. I’m sure Eric Prydz’s holygrams (especially the spaceman) have been discussed in this thread somewhere. Here’s a good write up about what tech was used. I can certainly see the same tech being used, specifically projecting holygrams onto mesh.
Eric Prydz stuns London with his EPIC 5.0 show | WIRED UK
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innominata8
War Child
Projected holygrams may not be the most common thought when we think of AR, thanks to smartphones & Pokémon Go. But they are certainly a type of augmented reality. I’m with Immo & blue skies, I’m betting there will be more to the AR elements of the show than just a silly app.
We’ve seen the tour trailers with mock ups of hoygrams jumping out of the screen (blue Bono among others). We’ve seen The Ocean during Iris.
I’d bet we’ll have large holygrams projected in front of the screen. I think they’ll be projected on a mesh hanging from the roof (some way away from the top of the screen) attached to the bottom of the screen. I think we may have already seen this projection mesh, & mistaken it for the LED screen.
We may have also seen the projection mesh in the Iris video, though it doesn’t appear to be attached to the screen (maybe, like a filter, it’s just a video edit with two layers, one of the band performing, & one of the holygram).
Certainly wouldn’t be the first large scale holygrams projected at a concert. I’m sure Eric Prydz’s holygrams (especially the spaceman) have been discussed in this thread somewhere. Here’s a good write up about what tech was used. I can certainly see the same tech being used, specifically projecting holygrams onto mesh.
Eric Prydz stuns London with his EPIC 5.0 show | WIRED UK
Wow, the WIRED tech article is really good. This is pretty much what I have been assuming the band was going to be doing - some type of holographic imaging - albeit maybe trying to take it to the next level.
As someone noted earlier, on opening night of IE we got to see them performing inside of the screen for the first time and everyone nearly lost their shit. I'm hoping for the same level of surprise in 6 short days.
I mean...Projected holygrams may not be the most common thought when we think of AR, thanks to smartphones & Pokémon Go. But they are certainly a type of augmented reality. I’m with Immo & blue skies, I’m betting there will be more to the AR elements of the show than just a silly app.
We’ve seen the tour trailers with mock ups of hoygrams jumping out of the screen (blue Bono among others). We’ve seen The Ocean during Iris.
I’d bet we’ll have large holygrams projected in front of the screen. I think they’ll be projected on a mesh hanging from the roof (some way away from the top of the screen) attached to the bottom of the screen. I think we may have already seen this projection mesh, & mistaken it for the LED screen.
We may have also seen the projection mesh in the Iris video, though it doesn’t appear to be attached to the screen (maybe, like a filter, it’s just a video edit with two layers, one of the band performing, & one of the holygram).
Certainly wouldn’t be the first large scale holygrams projected at a concert. I’m sure Eric Prydz’s holygrams (especially the spaceman) have been discussed in this thread somewhere. Here’s a good write up about what tech was used. I can certainly see the same tech being used, specifically projecting holygrams onto mesh.
Eric Prydz stuns London with his EPIC 5.0 show | WIRED UK
They're contained within a screen that gives off the illusion as I'd they're floating. They still need a screen - would unless we're suggesting that they've placed 4 of these screen cubes around the big one, including on both stages themselves... then this is not what's seen in the teaser video.
the mesh is a decent point, but the images in question in the Instagram video come off the main screen... which is why it's likely that it's a camera filter or lighting trick.
Alas, we'll time out shortly.
