trojanchick99
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Compared to 2008 Democratic Primary turnout is lower. However, Republican turnout is much higher. This is from Pew research. So while Sanders is exciting some people, he's still no Obama.
So while Sanders is exciting some people, he's still no Obama.
Wait, I thought Bernie had a "Revolution" and Obama didn't. Weird...
Compared to 2008 Democratic Primary turnout is lower. However, Republican turnout is much higher. This is from Pew research. So while Sanders is exciting some people, he's still no Obama.
I support Hillary because I feel she can move some legislation forward. I am not naive to think we'll get to some Utopia.
This country is divided nearly 50/50, we are not set up to enact legislation that shows no middle ground.
You're just pissed off because be was competition and ran the cleanest campaign ever known to humanity.
Or you're just pissed off because you try to pretend to be objective while constantly shilling for a candidate that hardly anybody under the age of fifty happens to like.
Again, this line of thinking is just completely wrong. Clinton can't move any legislation that the left finds dear to their hearts until Republicans are out of congress. There's no compromise legislation when the right won't even budge an inch.
And any major legislation that is passed will just be a slap in the face to the left, such as Obama utilizing Republican votes to pass the TPP or Clinton potentially using their votes to pass additional fracking permits. Nothing the right will agree to will ever benefit the American people, so if you're on the left, you might as well hope Clinton accomplishes nothing as any major legislation passed in her eight years will merely be a capitulation to Republicans against her party's objections (barring, of course, a miracle where the Dems reclaim the House).
Still, not once in this thread (or anywhere else on the internet) have I seen a single reasonable progressive policy proposal that Clinton will be able to get enough Republican support in the House to pass when she's President. Nor should anyone expect such a thing to exist. Republican House = Game Over and basically waiting for the courts to smack the ruler on gerrymandering and/or have more old white people die off. We're basically still in political purgatory until that happens.
But apparently Trump is.
wait so if you guys support Hillary, are you guys okay with she being kinda hawkish in Middle East? i just wonder
wait so if you guys support Hillary, are you guys okay with she being kinda hawkish in Middle East? i just wonder
isn't she supporting wars (or interventions) in Syria and Libya?
Are you asking or are you talking about a war with Syria?
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If she's hawkish against the Saudis, hell yeah. Just no war.
wait so if you guys support Hillary, are you guys okay with she being kinda hawkish in Middle East? i just wonder
...but I also think the Middle East is one of those issues where we're damned if we do and damned if we don't, and that'd be the case no matter who's in power.
Again, this line of thinking is just completely wrong. Clinton can't move any legislation that the left finds dear to their hearts until Republicans are out of congress. There's no compromise legislation when the right won't even budge an inch.
but is it our job to fix their wrongdoing, though?
This just feels hopeless. It's all or nothing with you it seems, if you can't have the full progressive agenda passed, then nothing is good enough.
We don't operate that way. Obama had the public option in the ACA to start and had a majority in both houses, and yet it was stripped out. He couldn't even get what was the closest thing to Universal Healthcare passed within his own party. Why would Bernie succeed? Especially when he's been an Independent his whole career?
Which is why Clinton is making efforts in reclaiming the House and Senate.
wait so if you guys support Hillary, are you guys okay with she being kinda hawkish in Middle East? i just wonder
isn't she supporting wars (or interventions) in Syria and Libya?
Also, she's supporting current Israel gov't, that's kinda insane.
She's whatever they want her to be
I want her to be liberal. is that too much to ask?
I want her to be liberal. is that too much to ask?