Shuttlecock VI: Leo can't see from GA cause his Dad put Red Zone on the rail

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How it looks to me is that the I and E, the prime real estate, will be regular GA, but that the catwalk rail will be Red Zone - which may account for at least or over half the total rail space. But then there's way more rail space than on any previous U2 tour, so that's still a case of swings and roundabouts.

It will also be a fairly narrow Red Zone by the looks and it's rarely tightly packed, so if you're on the rail behind the Red Zone you should still get a very good view. I did that once or twice on 360 and it was a really handy sightline. I think Matthias filmed a whole heap of U2gigs' videos from that vantage point.

Yep - not to mention they sold, what, 100 red zone tickets?

A hockey arena is usually 200 feet long. It is a bit shorter, but also has the i and e stage that aren't straight up and down the arena. Given rail on both sides, I'm imagining at least 350-400 feet of rail frontage.

If 100 red zone tickets are sold, and an average human is about a foot and a half, there is no way it is even half the rail frontage.
 
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I think it's preemptive bitching from the jaded old fans who have seen too much line/rail fuckery. There are actually only a couple of people complaining about the perceived set up.

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I'm so fucking glad I have seats.
 
I mean I have GA for Vancouver and I'd be a little bummed if it turns out that the Red Zone gets the whole rail. I rarely get to attend U2 shows (I went to Seattle during 360 when I was 16 and that was it), so I want to make the most of the two shows I'm able to attend on this tour. For me, that's lining up to try to get a good spot. I'm not a line Nazi by any means, but I will be somewhat upset if GA isn't close to the stage, because I bought tickets assuming GA would be the closest.


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The more pictures I see of the stage, I'm not convinced that the rails along the catwalk are going to be the prime spots. Obv, we don't know, but there's no point in worrying about it yet. I think most of GA is just going to be prime real estate, with two stages in play.
 
My tickets aren't on the floor, so the I'm not sure the RZ stuff effects me. I have 100 level seats off(close to directly off) the side of one of the stages for the June 28th Chicago show. Which stage, I'm not sure. But I guess I'll be pretty close to the band for half the show. I'm looking forward to it regardless, and I'm sure I'll have a blast, so I'm not going to torture myself trying to figure out what I'll be close to or what I won't, etc.
 
Anyway, to get back to the music, some SOI talk:

Listened to SOI for the first time in quite a while over the last couple days. I still dig it on the whole, although I'm not quite as raving about it as I was back when it came out. If you take the whole 14-song batch(the album+the three non-album tracks), I think about half of them make up arguably the best handful of material they've recorded since MDH or even Pop.

That half is Raised By Wolves onward on the album, plus Invisible and Crystal Ballroom.

I put together a playlist last night consisting of just those seven tracks and I'm still as into those tracks as I was back in the fall. Really, really strong material. Not only that, but those tracks are cohesive together, as well, imo. It really sounds like they came from the same creative place, a dark, brooding, aching, introspective place.

The playlist is as follows:

1. This Is Where You Can Reach Me Now
2. The Crystal Ballroom
3. Raised By Wolves
4. Cedarwood Road
5. Sleep Like A Baby Tonight
6. Invisible
7. The Troubles

SLABT is legit beautiful in its melody and atmosphere, and that guitar solo at the end is perhaps the most Achtung-y the band has sounded since Achtung.

The Troubles is gorgeous and perhaps the most emotionally raw lyric Bono has written(that he's released anyway) since Pop. Let me take this moment to disagree with Laz regarding his opposition to the band playing it live with a recording of Lykke. I think the song is too good to not be played live.

Cedarwood and Wolves are the kind of brooding rockers that U2 used to make all the time, but they haven't really made since Gone, Mofo, Miami, and Please(save for Love and Peace or Else but that's not exactly a beloved song around here). They're both a breath of fresh air and should absolutely kick ass on the tour. I do take the point Laz has consistently made that the guitar solo in Cedarwood isn't all that interesting, and I do hope Edge spices it up live.

You would've never expected U2 to put out a song like Reach - they are doing some genuinely original(for them) stuff on this track. It's like War-era U2 and In Rainbows-era Radiohead got together and collaborated. The extended intro is gorgeous, warm and lush, at once beckoning you in but also telling you to watch your step. And then the big chorus, and the verses with Edge's choppy guitar and Bono's smooth vocal delivery. Great track, I'm using it as the opener on my playlist.

Crystal Ballroom and Invisible should've been on the album. Probably in place of SFS and Volcano. They're both so good. Especially Crystal Ballroom. I honestly think it could've killed as a lead single, as much as a U2 single can kill in 2014/15 anyway. That chorus is just huge, and the song is already very good up through the second chorus, but then it goes to another level. That break down, with that little guitar break and then the wordless ascending oh..oh..oh..OH..oh etc, just slays me every time, and then that long guitar solo that closes that song(has to be one of the best things Edge has done in a long while). And those keyboard notes at the every end. Seriously, the second half of the song works for me on a nearly UF/JT level. I really, really hope they play this at some point on the tour.

The rest of it my feelings are becoming more mixed on.

The Miracle and California, I really do like, especially California with that huge chorus and general warm tone, but I just feel like they don't fit the rest of the album tonally, as they're bright and upbeat, whereas those seven tracks I mentioned earlier are darker and less poppy. As such, I find it difficult to put them in a playlist with those other tracks. They just never fit as much as I'd like them to, since I do like them.

Iris, I think fits tonally with the seven tracks, but it's a bit of a momentum killer with its pace. I do like it though, particularly the verses with that low register that Bono seldom uses anymore. I don't really understand why people have described as 'embarrassing'. I will say that, while the first part of the chorus('hold me close' etc) is sort of catchy, I'm not sure it's necessary. They could've gone straight from 'a thousand years to get here' to 'ooh ooh iris' and made it a shorter, more purely meditative piece. But it's still one of my favorite tracks here outside the top 7.

Volcano probably fits tonally with the seven tracks, particularly Wolves and Cedarwood, and I dig the RHCP-style guitar in the chorus, and that huge bass fill after the first chorus, but there's just not that much substance here. It'll probably rock live, but it's not one of the seven tracks I can't live without.

SFS is SFS. It's pretty enough, it's well-executed, it's just that there are any number of bands that could pull off a song like this. There aren't any number of bands that could pull off, say, The Troubles or This Is Where.

Every Breaking Wave was maybe my favorite track on the album when it first came out, and of all the tracks that didn't make my top 7, it is, along with Iris, probably the most likely to sneak onto the playlist with the top 7. But it would be the acoustic version. I like the acoustic arrangement so much that I can't really listen to the album version in the same way anymore. Especially after that MTV Euro performance, which I thought Bono hit out of the park with his vocal. I was mildly disappointed to hear that the band was rehearsing it full-band in Vancouver. If they could play it every night they way they did on that MTV performance, it could be a showstopper. Not sure if Bono could sustain that level of intensity in the vocal for a whole tour though.

Lucifer's Hands is fun to listen to, that riff is big and dirty and the chorus is pretty rambunctious but it's not as memorable as some of the other tracks here, and like Miracle and California, I feel like it doesn't fit tonally with the best of the material. I might take it over Volcano though.

I might put EBW and Iris in the playlist and end up with something like

1. This Is Where You Can Reach Me Now
2. The Crystal Ballroom
3. Invisible
4. Iris
5. Every Breaking Wave(Acoustic)
6. Raised By Wolves
7. Cedarwood Road
8. Sleep Like A Baby Tonight
9. The Troubles

and still have something that I think is pretty cohesive and tonally of one spirit, but it's not quite as streamlined as going with the top 7.

Anyway, those are my seven-months-later thoughts. Probably the thing I was most wrong about in my initial reaction the album was that I said the running order didn't need any fixing.

SOI with my running orders is probably still middle-of-the-pack for me, anywhere and that 6-9 range(that's more a testament to the strength of U2's older work than a hit on SOI, I mean, nothing's ever going to crack that top 5). SOI with its actual running order is probably a little lower, maybe the 8-10 range. Maybe something like this(pretty similar to where I put it back in September):

1. Achtung
2. UF
3. Zooropa
4. JT
5. Pop
6. R&H
7. Boy
8. SOI
9. War
10. October
11. NLOTH
12. ATYCLB
13. HTDAAB
 
So I have a tidbit of information w/r/t support acts:

I'm friends with
Emily from Warpaint
and was speaking with her and the band's manager last night; apparently they were contacted by someone with U2 or Universal about their availability from mid-May to mid-July for a support slot. They believe there were a number of bands approached, and obviously at this stage of the game it's unlikely they will still be offered the gig, but it seems that there is an intention to have an opener playing. The one thing I forgot to ask is how long ago they spoke with anyone, so it's theoretically possible U2 decided somewhere down the line to not have anyone after all. It does seem weird that they would wait this long to announce if any papers were signed.

I'm a little bummed they weren't selected because I think they would have done a good job winning over the crowd--they're a lot more fun live than they are on their recordings, particularly the most recent atmospheric album. And the bonus is that you have several girls with great voices who could have easily sung the Lykke Li part on The Troubles.

Oh well. Maybe next year...
 
Oh no the U2news Instagram has pics of Bono and Jimmy Fallon riding bikes together in NYC....


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So I have a tidbit of information w/r/t support acts:

I'm friends with
Emily from Warpaint
and was speaking with her and the band's manager last night; apparently they were contacted by someone with U2 or Universal about their availability from mid-May to mid-July for a support slot. They believe there were a number of bands approached, and obviously at this stage of the game it's unlikely they will still be offered the gig, but it seems that there is an intention to have an opener playing. The one thing I forgot to ask is how long ago they spoke with anyone, so it's theoretically possible U2 decided somewhere down the line to not have anyone after all. It does seem weird that they would wait this long to announce if any papers were signed.

I'm a little bummed they weren't selected because I think they would have done a good job winning over the crowd--they're a lot more fun live than they are on their recordings, particularly the most recent atmospheric album. And the bonus is that you have several girls with great voices who could have easily sung the Lykke Li part on The Troubles.

Oh well. Maybe next year...
I don't think I've seen someone having more fun on stage than Jenny Lee Lindberg, so I definitely agree that they'd have won over the crowd.
 
If Bono was any sort of self respecting rock star, he'd at least step up his game to a bike with a motor.
 
I don't want any band I like supporting U2, given the way the entire crowd ignores them (not to mention the vitriol they inevitably receive here).

And cheers for that info, laz. The whole opener situation is fucking weird.
 
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