Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Elevator music.
Alright, I think I'm going to add another round of voting for these songs, which means adding more of them. The reason I didn't want to include every single non-album song was because I thought I would be wasting Interference's time with songs like, say, Jack In The Box - songs that, to be honest, I don't think many of us care about. However, it's pretty obvious to me that a very large portion of Interference seems to care about a lot of these songs, as partially evidenced by how high the scores are on the TUF-TJT-R&H non-album tracks right now. So that's my rationale. What songs should I add?
I think Digitize will be going off of percentages rather than total vote count. But still, the votes could turn out skewed. I think some common sense will have to be added.Digitize, I noticed another thing. With the more known songs, there's many more votes than with the b-sides. Is that going to count for the final results as well? Because I have the feeling many people don't vote for these songs as they either don't know or don't care for them, which could make their grades turn out much higher on average by just tallying the votes.
Galeongirl said:I expect bad and streets to end up on top yeah. Perhaps followed closely by Acrobat, but seeing the amount of 90s lovers on here has diminished over the years, I don't see it happening sadly.
If U2 made it why couldn't it be counted? Not all of the Passengers album is tolerable and there is a dark humor to some of it, but it was a largely gambled experimental and it's still by U2 no matter what way you look at it. We voted R&H didn't we...
I agree. Some people may consider these songs (the JT/TUF b-sides) to be filler or Muzak, or really not worthy, but considering how well they're regarded on this site, I think there's no reason they shouldn't be considered right along the mainstream releases. And since were not just rating "singles" here, but the entire catalogue, considering that most of these b-sides have now been formally released in the deluxe remasters and compilation albums, they should be judged alongside anything else.
I've been a U2 fan since War, have seen every tour since TUF (except Lovetown), andI think you could create a disc of TUF & JT era b-sides that's equal to or better than half their studio catalogue. But that's just my opinion and everyone can vote...but apparently a lot of folks love these tracks as much as I do.
If I were conducting these polls, Passengers would absolutely be rated. It's a U2 album, no matter what the cover says. Eno & Lanois involvement and participate ndoesn't make it any less a U2 record than NLOTH. But, yes, it's technically not a U2 record, so I could totally understand if Dig skipped this one. It's his show and he's doing a great job w/it.
I will say there is merit to looking at the %, rather than pure numbers of votes each song is getting (which I'm sure is what Dig is doing), so I really don't see the problem in stacking all the songs against each other. As Dig says, everyone uses their own criteria for voting.
As far as the 90's material goes, I expect AB at least to to do as well, if not better, than anything else being rated. There's not a bad track on that album.
About the '90s I agree about AB winning alot of votes, possibly Zooropa will as well. I think when everything will go downhill as far as 'who likes what' is when we get to Pop.
I've loved U2 avidly since 2004, so I can can laugh at the remark made in another thread that I've only experienced one U2 release, but I have knowledge about almost every U2 song that is out there. Remixes can be excluded entirely, so I think if it is a solid song, 'demo' or anything that can be classified as a U2 song, I personally would rate it.
What I think is happening is the simple fact that people aren't looking into U2's entire music history. And also people are voting on what others have voted (for whatever reason).
But I love what your doing Digi by having an individual vote for these songs, and I'm just trying to shed light on the 'undesirables' of U2 songs.
Great job!
I've loved U2 avidly since 2004, so I can can laugh at the remark made in another thread that I've only experienced one U2 release, but I have knowledge about almost every U2 song that is out there.
I agree with this, with the exception of the Extended Dance Remix of Lady With the Spinning Head. That is too phenomenal to not vote on.Yeah...I agree, no reason to rate the remixes. That would be a waste of time. A LOT of time, since there's probably more remixes than original songs.
Digitize, I noticed another thing. With the more known songs, there's many more votes than with the b-sides. Is that going to count for the final results as well? Because I have the feeling many people don't vote for these songs as they either don't know or don't care for them, which could make their grades turn out much higher on average by just tallying the votes.
Yes, this is definitely an issue that I've been thinking about. My plan was to not really release one absolute list of which songs are best, but to provide multiple lists based on different criteria. Perhaps the most important of those has songs ranked just by mean. However, I also came up with a formula using the mean and the standard deviation to assess a song's "reliability", where, for instance, a song with just two 7s would rank higher than a song with a 6 and an 8, and I was planning on also releasing ranks based on that (as well as on standard deviation alone, which actually has a fairly strong correlation to mean). However, I may cook up another formula to factor in mean, standard deviation, and number of votes and rank all of the songs by that as well.
Nope.
the good thing about these polls is we can vote based on whatever criteria we want. so if you want to vote for lwtsh's remix rather than the regular version, it's cool. same goes for any other song.
I agree with this, with the exception of the Extended Dance Remix of Lady With the Spinning Head. That is too phenomenal to not vote on.
Yeah...I agree, no reason to rate the remixes. That would be a waste of time. A LOT of time, since there's probably more remixes than original songs.
I even hesitated a bit to separate Sweetish Thing, but I think it deserves it in the end.