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Category: Great songs without a proper chorus

I've been thinking about this for a few days and want to know what the population here would throw out.

edit- mostly this was conceived in opposition to a stock pop verse-chorus-verse-chorus-middle 8-chorus-chorus, so I'm personally hoping for the poppier end of the spectrum a little more, but of course the floor is open.
 
Went camping in the forest over the long weekend. Drank many beers, ate crap food, got dirty, listened to music, had plenty of laughs. Here's my catchup post.

1. We threw a deodorant can in the fire and there was a huge explosion. So awesome.

2. One of my mates made a mix CD of Aussie hip-hop songs, meaning for a large amount of the weekend I had to listen to downright garbage such as this: YouTube - 360 - Mamma Mia HD which drove me fucking insane.

3. There was also some "hardstyles" played, which is hard techno music that one could only enjoy after snorting 15 lines, and that's coming from someone who loves dance music: YouTube - DJ Showtek - FTS (Fuck the system)

Includes the following "breakdown" which is just laughable, because there are so many douchebags who live by this:

This is what I love, and can't stop loving.
Get wasted at parties, from 9 'til 7 in the morning.
I live for the music, rolling Blunts, feeling high, getting loaded, or take some pills and go to La-la-land.
Spending all my money on dope and on extreme high price tickets,but in the end it's all worth it
I like to live in my OWN WORLD ! Fuck regular life...fuck a 9-to-5 job.
I'm told to enjoy every moment, every hour, every minute,thats what I do on fridays and saturdays.
Why should I take life so seriously? I just want do what I like to do, being far from reality.
Cause I can't stand society
This is my own world, I just want to hear the music.
I think the whole system fucking sucks, everybody is working their fucking ass off during the week, getting totally fucking stressed out.
So what's wrong and what's right? I live for the weekend, I live for hard styles, I live for hardstyle baby...
Come on, let's go!


4. A mate played this song a lot - I can't decide if I kinda dig it or fucking loathe it. Been stuck in my head for ages:

YouTube - Lil Wayne Gonorrhea feat Drake

5. I can't name any Prince songs aside from 1999 and Purple Rain, but I would love to see him live, can't believe it's only $25 and he's doing 20-odd shows. That's ludicrous.

6. Kate Middleton is hot as phuck but I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a rusty nail than watch the wedding. :down:

7. Awesome that Matt Bertirnger reckons your girlfriend is hot, yup.

8. Going to a concert solo was an absolute no-no for me until a few months ago, when people on this forum convinced me that it's not so bad. I've seen The National and De La Soul solo... The National solo didn't bother me in the slightest, De La would have been better if I'd been with someone.

9. Step Brothers battles it out with Anchorman as probably my favourite movie of all time. I realise it's ridiculous to all y'all, cos most of you are movie buffs, but I'm not. Social Network and Toy Story were the only films nominated for Best Picture that I watched.
 
Everything I hate about music today: iTunes Top 500 - NovaFM Competitions

There's some catchy songs in here, sure. But the fact that these are the top 500 selling songs on itunes in Australia makes me very depressed, even though it's not surprising in the slightest.


Edit, I forgot to post earlier, laz, I think you get cream to stop your nipple chafing.
 
Category: Great songs without a proper chorus

I've been thinking about this for a few days and want to know what the population here would throw out.

edit- mostly this was conceived in opposition to a stock pop verse-chorus-verse-chorus-middle 8-chorus-chorus, so I'm personally hoping for the poppier end of the spectrum a little more, but of course the floor is open.


I think I mentioned this a few months ago, asking if there was a better chorus-less song than Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here.
 
A tough call. You have these two sections, which have a different format than the "verses" and contain the same melody:

You spent the first five years trying to get with the plan
And the next five years trying to be with your friends again
You're talking 45 turns just as fast as you can
Yeah, I know it gets tired, but it's better when we pretend

and

You drop the first ten years just as fast as you can
And the next ten people who are trying to be polite
When you're blowing eighty-five days in the middle of France
Yeah, I know it gets tired only where are your friends tonight

Probably constitutes a refrain.

Whereas with the Floyd song, you have only two distinct sections (with a solo in-between), and while the "How I wish/how I wish you were here" certainly sounds like a potential chorus, it's only sung once, and then the song is over.
 
Codex does not have a chorus, and there are probably many other Radiohead songs like that as well. Idioteque springs to mind.
 
"Idioteque?" Here I'm allowed everything all of the time, bro. That's a chorus.
 
Since we're talking Beatles, "Tomorrow Never Knows" would probably be my submission for best chorus-less song.
 
"Idioteque?" Here I'm allowed everything all of the time, bro. That's a chorus.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that part. But the underlying chords and beat do not change there, only the vocal melody. I guess we need to define "chorus" more carefully.
 
Since we're talking Beatles, "Tomorrow Never Knows" would probably be my submission for best chorus-less song.

The "I'd love to turn you on" part with the orchestral swelling is repeated, and probably constitutes a chorus.

EDIT: for some reason I thought you said A Day In The Life. But Tomorrow Never Knows has a number of repeated lines, no?
 
Nope. Unless you count the last two lines of each stanza repeating as a chorus, which you shouldn't. But again, we're running into some trouble reaching a consensus on what to call a chorus.
 
Hey Imps, do you remember the brand of those ear plugs you like for concerto listenifying?
 
Sure do. Ear Peace. I wish I still had some of the freebies lying around so I could send you a pair to try out, but no dice.
 
Good Lord, Radiator is the sexiest shit alive. SFA offers me some color on a shitty spring morning.

Anyone heard Song Cycle by Van Dyke Parks? I listened to it in the car on the way to school this morning, which was a terrible idea, as listening to it any way other than headphones screwed up the mixing. It's a cool record though, kind of like what Smile could have been had Brian Wilson been more productive with his insanity. One song reminded me of early Animal Collective, and it came out in 1968. Fucking crazy.
 
I already have bad hearing so I've never needed ear plugs during concerts. The whole National show was no problem aside from the very end of Terrible Love which was insanely fucking loud.
 
Good Lord, Radiator is the sexiest shit alive. SFA offers me some color on a shitty spring morning.

I'm having kind of a weird clash of feelings right now while listening to Hotel Shampoo as a literal waterfall of rain and hail falls outside the window :uhoh:.
 
I have a friend named Robert Smith, and I just saw him update something on facebook, which reminds me, I had another music dream last night.

This time it was Robert Smith, instead of Bono who I befriended, but he acted equally dicky towards me when it came to me asking him to play a specific song. But he DID give me VIP tickets to Lolla (where The Cure were playing) so that was pretty awesome. Not so awesome that The Cure insisted on playing all of The Cure and 4:13 Dream in whole pretty much. I tried to convince them otherwise, but Robert wouldn't listen. He was very emo about the whole thing. Also, he got a haircut, which was nice.

The End.
 
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