Irvine511
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because it's where we're going next..and one's destination is based on what you do here..
...i want my friends to go to the best place the easiest way.
behold, the marketing hook.
because it's where we're going next..and one's destination is based on what you do here..
...i want my friends to go to the best place the easiest way.
behold, the marketing hook.
Just a quick thought for diamond. You keep saying that its easier not to believe in an afterlife. What makes you so sure of that? For me, I find it extremely difficult to not believe in an afterlife, but its the conclusion that I've somewhat reluctantly come to. For some reason, it scares the crap out of me that once I'm done, an infinite amount of time will pass that I just wont get to take part in. I realize that it will be no different than before I was born, but the fact that I'm now able to be conscious of that fact is a very grim reality for me. Also when loved ones die, its much easier to cope with the thought that you'll meet up with them eventually, rather than they're gone and you'll never get to see them again, ever. I mean, that can be a really hard pill to swallow. I dont think its fair to label non belief as the easier route. For I, and I assume many others, would say your beliefs are the easiest to live with
Just a quick thought for diamond. You keep saying that its easier not to believe in an afterlife. What makes you so sure of that? For me, I find it extremely difficult to not believe in an afterlife, but its the conclusion that I've somewhat reluctantly come to. For some reason, it scares the crap out of me that once I'm done, an infinite amount of time will pass that I just wont get to take part in. I realize that it will be no different than before I was born, but the fact that I'm now able to be conscious of that fact is a very grim reality for me. Also when loved ones die, its much easier to cope with the thought that you'll meet up with them eventually, rather than they're gone and you'll never get to see them again, ever. I mean, that can be a really hard pill to swallow. I dont think its fair to label non belief as the easier route. For I, and I assume many others, would say your beliefs are the easiest to live with
I'm smarter than you, I do the right thing, and I don't do it to appease a sky God.King James Bible:
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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I'm smarter than you, I do the right thing, and I don't do it to appease a sky God.
Then I apologize for misinterpreting your comment.I never said that there haven't been very deep thinkers who had strong faith.
I think that it's interesting that you put Plato and Socrates in your list. Euthyphro gives a very strong argument against Diamonds point about morality.
The statement was The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." and I take exception to that
I'm smarter than you, I do the right thing, and I don't do it to appease a sky God.
As far as minimising the statement on the basis that its very old and depends on the context of a particular cultures oral tradition then why not extend that argument to the rest of the bible? Why is it that the nasty pieces have to be explained away with cultural context and error-prone writers but other pieces are deemed to be divinely inspired?
inferiority complex?
"It is very beautiful over there!"
These have sometimes been reported as his last words, but were actually spoken several days before his death, as he awoke from a nap, gazing upwards, as reported by his physician Dr. Hubert S. Howe, in Thomas A. Edison, Benefactor of Mankind.
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Yes, I would like to see my dead friends and relatives again. I also would like there to be world peace, a million dollars in my checking account, and for Matt Damon to ask me to marry him. If I took my longing as proof they were going to happen, you'd think I was deranged.
Miller also only scratches the great conceptual hole at the heart of heaven: After a while, wouldn't it be excruciatingly dull? When you live in the desert, a spring seems like paradise. But when you have had the spring for a thousand years, won't you be sick of it? Heaven is, in George Orwell's words, an attempt to "produce a perfect society by an endless continuation of something that had only been valuable because it was temporary." Take away the contrast, and heaven becomes hell.
Indeed, as Miller concedes: "Virtually all the features of [a near-death experience]—the sense of moving through a tunnel, an 'out of body' feeling, spiritual awe, visual hallucinations, and intense memories—can be reproduced with a stiff dose of ketamine, a horse tranquilizer frequently used as a party drug."
Diemen,
Did you read the account?
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Diemen,
Did you read the account?
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It's been posted on the internet. What more evidence do you need?
I did. Again, I don't think anonymous stories posted with no corroborating evidence on a site with a clear bias are all that persuasive.
Eighty Seconds
Knowing Purity
Chose Second Chance
Superimposed
Things To Do
After an Accident
The Essence of Life
Let Me Stay
Still Me
Genuine Love & Compassion
Deep Peace
Lift Up Your Head
Under the Surface, Deep Within My Soul
Recall
Tremendous Homesickness
Above the Car
Back Unwillingly
An Onlooker Evaluating the Situation
Change in Thought
Lucid and Rapid Thinking
Childing
Communication without Words
Going Inside a Glove
Billions of Conscious Minds
Precognition Since NDE
Guided by a Wolf
Unforgettable 65 Years Later
Our True Home
Calling by Name
There's Life After Death
Miss Where I Was
Floating Like A Helium Balloon
I Couldn't Cross
Non-existence
Hurried to the Light
Met by Mother
Life's History Exploded into Consciousness
Near-Death Delivery Recall
Floating Over the Water
Above the Bleachers
Skipping Up a Beautiful Path
All is Everything, Everything is One
Walking Toward the Source
360 Degree Vision
Massive Infinite Entity
A Call of Life
High Above
A World of Peace in Pool
Filled with Love and Peace
There is More
Floating Above My Right Shoulder
Spinning in the Tunnel
Oneness is Reality
Chose to Stay with Children
Someone Stopped Me
About to Enter the Light
Face-to-face with Jesus the Christ
From the Sun Down to Earth
Childhood Imaginary Friend/NDE Guide
Spirit Communication
Guided to Do Out of Love
Lost Connection with the Physical Plane
You Cannot Go
Will Never Forget the Experience
Almost Went to Heaven
Holy Presence
Male Voices
Never Wanted to Leave
Living Water
Perfect Love
Saw Nurse Run Into Room
In Spirit Floating
Saw What Happened
Death Not Terrible
Left and Returned
Walking to Heaven
Radiating Warmth
Hand Reaching Down
Beautiful Field
Charcoal Corridor
I Want to Go Back
You Were Dead
Back Home
A Mission To Do
Glow of Energy
If this is Death, It's Wonderful
A Cube with Rainbow Prisms
Difficulty Being Back in My Body
Watching Myself Struggle
Another Chance to Live
Spirit Flung Out of Body
Sense of Peace
Learning with Being
Natural Continuum
Between Worlds
Corridors of Life's Images
Telepathic Communication
Quiet and Clarity
I Could See My Body
Time to Return
Love Each Other and Learn
Light and Tunnel Beneath the Water
A Place with Emanating Love
Peaceful and Not Frightening
Surrounded by Pure Love
I'm Home
Outside a Gate with Other Beings
Lucid Thought in Dark Void
A Wondrous River of Peace
Everything Self-Evident
Shed Body Like Caterpillar for More Beautiful Form
Bright Oversized Sun
Surrounded by God's Love
Sensed Someone Beside Me
Lost Breath of Life
Shown How Illnesses Start on an Energetic Level
Following Spiritual Guide toward White Tunnel
Not Ready to Go
Powerful Bright White Force
Surrounded by Intense Energy
Ultimate Peacefulness
Review to Send On or Back
Standing in the Greenest Grass
Floating through the Air
Caring Voices
The Brightest of Lights
A Healing Robe of Stones
Streaming Bright Light
Loving Light Took Grief and Said Grow
Shimmering River of Life
Life Span
Loving Light
Held Back
Gargantuan Energy Source
Revelation
Sweet Contentment
Out of Body Ecstasy
Blue Light
Image
Beauty and No Fear at Drowning Point
More than Euphoria amid the Presence
At Birth
Sister's Prayer
Watching Over Me
Three Accounts
Unborn
Spirit Direction
An Angelic Visit
Better Lives for Children
Happy Freedom
Living Grace
A Boundary of Flowers
Black Room
Waved Back by an Angel
Misty White Light
Brighter Path
A Choice to Continue or Return
It appears there are a whole host of global collaborators and conspirators who want to:
"Build a Global Understanding of Near-Death Experiences".
Also, to diamond and AliEnvy in regards to your stories-scary stuff, so glad you both made it through okay.
How about erowid.org; people post about their mystical experiences on drugs, but it doesn't prove anything supernatural.