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War Child
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This really makes no sense to me. What were the narratives pre zoo? I think iE was one of the most solid narratives they've ever had. |
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War Child
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The abuse and harrassment continues from BVS. Could it be that you accept general ill-fitting narratives that don't really apply to songs in a coherent manner? Indeed, nothing makes sense anyone.
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Seriously, where is there "abuse and harassment" in BVS' post? Clearly you have an issue with him from whatever your former screen name was. |
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Stop playing victim. There was no harassment. Dumbass, idiot; these are words of harassment. Guess who has used those? Not me. I just said it doesn't make sense to me, if you'd like to explain further, please feel free and actually engage, but stop with this bs. |
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My whole point about "narratives" is that yes it's U2 and they often try and build a narrative, most of the time it's a very loose one, others it's just odd(I'm looking at you spaceship), but iE and JT have been some of the strongest they've done.
But it's odd isn't it, how many bands just tour to play songs?! So I found Peter's criticism very strange. Nothing feels slapped together, the setlist may not be perfect but the second night was solid, filming visuals during the tour is not anything new, so the whole thing felt like a stretch. |
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I've never once thought "aww shit the song has lost something being this early." I know U2 fans are conditioned to expecting a very theatrically set up entrance for Streets at the peak of the show, but honestly it isn't that big a deal. Acts that play rotating setlists do this all the time. |
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I am pretty happy with the song selection other than *some* of the encore, and I agree with the "where's the Rattle & Hum" camp.
There seems to be a respect for the iconic and enduring motives for the show, social and spiritual. Bands digging back catalog and playing whole albums has become "a thing," and I am hoping this thing gets better with more shows. But then there is the fear that this is a cynical, Live-Nation-driven late-career grab. I agree with the band's creative commitment to the values that brought us JT & our need for them now. But tucked in the complaint about SBS opening was the remark about Bono's voice. His range sounds clipped in the video clips, & I miss the soaring. He seems a little stuck with a little grit in his singing. Right now that is my biggest worry with this show. I hope he takes care of himself! That & the synthy switch to the Sort Of Homecoming opening, which is a song I am still itching to hear live!!!
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Visuals for the opening songs have a "this will do" vibe to them.
Sight lines for every GA ticket are wonky no matter where you stand. Most of the sight lines from the stands have little to clearly see band wise without binoculars. My neck is still a bit sore from Seattle. 8k on a 200 foot screen may be nifty, but it doesn't change the fact it's just a half dozen Corbijn screen savers you payed hundreds to see. Do 90% of the audience know why grannies are holding candles? The crew just pressed the pause button on the grannies when Bono did stage banter in Vancouver. Willie does pre production on U2 tours years before opening night. This tour didn't exist until a couple weeks before tickets dropped. I face palm when I see Lena Dunham's face next to Maya Angelou, Melinda Gates....etc. |
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This is NOT what we wanted
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You could say this about any u2 stadium tour; you could reduce it down to just screensavers, did the audience know why the ladies faces were censored and rotating, sightlines ![]() |
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I face palmed the Melinda call out. |
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When conceiving a show from scratch, he needs lots of time. In this case, they had the original tour's aesthetic as a starting point. I dig it.
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90% of the GA floor have no sightline at all for the b-stage. There's at least 3 band interviews saying a couple JT shows known at Christmas turned into a full stadium tour. 5 month turn around including working on a new album and then April when band members were on different continents. I still don't know why THEY are doing this tour. Corbijn is an acquired taste and IMO only has an artistic success rate 40% of the time. All of JT visuals were basically handed over to him. |
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Maybe 12-15 of the JT shows in 1987 had screens. I think all were colour. |
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Nosebleeds and $300 seats alike get no video close-ups. GA gets limited sightlines. Red Zone gets a camera crane in the way. Guy Oseary gets a boat. |
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