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Old 06-08-2017, 04:27 PM   #196
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Saw them Chicago #2, I was wrong about SBS- fantastic song to open with. I don't necessarily agree with the uncreative production of the stage and show, but musically they were on point, as always.

My only issue with the concert was that they did the JT album in order. I understand what they were trying to do with the concept, but throwing a slew of b-side songs in the 2nd half of the concert really deflated the energy. Also, miss sarajevo was awful.

Great concert nonetheless, the guys still have it.
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Saw them Chicago #2, I was wrong about SBS- fantastic song to open with. I don't necessarily agree with the uncreative production of the stage and show, but musically they were on point, as always.

My only issue with the concert was that they did the JT album in order. I understand what they were trying to do with the concept, but throwing a slew of b-side songs in the 2nd half of the concert really deflated the energy. Also, miss sarajevo was awful.

Great concert nonetheless, the guys still have it.


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Saw them Chicago #2, I was wrong about SBS- fantastic song to open with. I don't necessarily agree with the uncreative production of the stage and show, but musically they were on point, as always.

My only issue with the concert was that they did the JT album in order. I understand what they were trying to do with the concept, but throwing a slew of b-side songs in the 2nd half of the concert really deflated the energy. Also, miss sarajevo was awful.

Great concert nonetheless, the guys still have it.
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Saw them Chicago #2, I was wrong about SBS- fantastic song to open with. I don't necessarily agree with the uncreative production of the stage and show, but musically they were on point, as always.

My only issue with the concert was that they did the JT album in order. I understand what they were trying to do with the concept, but throwing a slew of b-side songs in the 2nd half of the concert really deflated the energy. Also, miss sarajevo was awful.

Great concert nonetheless, the guys still have it.


What b-sides? Do you mean side 2 of the JT? Besides RHMT really needing guitar punch from Edge instead of piano, I thought the JT arc was fantastic when I saw them at the Rose Bowl. I personally could have done without hearing Elevation for the 10 millionth time and One is getting tired for me (thank God he added back in the coda).
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lol, what a silly thread

Mind you, I'm no new music hater, but whatever "hits" they have from their new album, they're likely going to pale in comparison to side 2 of The Joshua Tree.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.

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lol, what a silly thread

Mind you, I'm no new music hater, but whatever "hits" they have from their new album, they're likely going to pale in comparison to side 2 of The Joshua Tree.

Mind you, I didn't say the songs were weak- but to any casual fan 5 of those songs in a row in the LATTER of the show is a horrible idea. This is why bands play their "classic" stuff towards the middle.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.









Mind you, I didn't say the songs were weak- but to any casual fan 5 of those songs in a row in the LATTER of the show is a horrible idea. This is why bands play their "classic" stuff towards the middle.


I have always considered b-sides to be the other sides of singles releases - usually non album tracks. Whereas album tracks on side 2 were usually stronger than b-sides (so to warrant inclusion on an album), but not usually the radio friendly hits. The side 2 of Joshua Tree has strong songs - heck, they were going to release Red Hill as as the second single back in 87. Honestly, I think the piano and horns arrangement of RHMT sucks some life out of the show though. But I think it comes back with IGC.
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I have always considered b-sides to be the other sides of singles releases - usually non album tracks. Whereas album tracks on side 2 were usually stronger than b-sides (so to warrant inclusion on an album), but not usually the radio friendly hits. The side 2 of Joshua Tree has strong songs - heck, they were going to release Red Hill as as the second single back in 87. Honestly, I think the piano and horns arrangement of RHMT sucks some life out of the show though. But I think it comes back with IGC.
They were going to until the record company said no, and put it on the B-side. This has been a strategy used by record companies since the beginning of time; I said the songs were great, but to put all 5 in a row in the latter stages of the concert is not the way to keep the energy up.
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I didn't notice any energy drop during side 2 of the Joshua Tree at the Rose Bowl. I actually did see some mental wandering during ASOH, which was infuriating, but it seemed to me the vast majority of the people there knew exactly what RHMT and OTH were, and those were the sides of the bridge, the posts that held the bridge up, not "out there" songs at all. In God's Country was virtually a single, and got its share of play. And the awesome versions of Exit and Trip carried the crowd who might have been otherwise ambivalent.


It HAD to be presented in order. I would have been very disappointed to have that run of songs as I listened to them so many times chopped up and put next to Elevation. The "JT" period of the show worked on so many levels.
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And I love the arrangement of RHMT...it is the revelation for me on this tour, and I keep checking in on Periscope every night, not to hear Streets or WOWY, but to hear RHMT. If I have nothing going on, I will stick around for the "B side" or side 2 (I think of B sides as the back side of singles, not side 2 of an album). I think the re-telling of RHMT is brilliant, and something about the way he sings the chorus and the delay like on the album 1st chorus...it just slays me.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.


False.

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They were going to until the record company said no, and put it on the B-side.


False again, are you just making shit up now?
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Albums aren't (weren't) commonly referred to as A side and B side. They were side 1 and side 2. And the material on side 2 was not automatically the weaker material on an album.

Singles have A and B and the B side is intended as space filler or a bonus as much as anything, not the case with albums.

just so happens in the case of Joshua Tree that Side 1 has the songs that are more popular with average folks, but its not industry practice to put weaker material on side 2.
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The B-sides are considered the 2nd part to the album. The 2nd part has songs that are considered "weaker" by the band. It's a music industry term.
No it's not.

Also based on my vinyl copy of Joshua Tree it's side three and four - but your results may vary.
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Yeah, side 1 and 2 (and onwards) is used for albums and A/B side is for singles.

Bono's even been making a point of saying "welcome to side 2" every night after Red Hill.
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