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Old 10-08-2015, 05:18 AM   #1
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Idea For a 2016 'Experience' Setlist

So this idea is based around the idea that U2 will release Songs Of Experience after their scheduled 2015 dates are completed. It would actually be awesome if, during the last show in Dublin on November 28, Bono announced that the new record was now available on iTunes or whatever or the band had a physical release ready for the Xmas market.

ANYWAY, I was thinking about what an "Experience" show might look like. The current setlist is very well put together thematically going from U2's young days to today, whereas having a show fully centered around just 'experience' is somewhat more difficult to pull off.

But, my basic idea is this. They start the show with four straight new songs from SOE. Then they go through 13 straight older songs, picking one from each of their previous 13 albums before finally ending with one more SOE track. So essentially you're getting a through-line of U2's entire history in one show. Then you get a 4-5 song encore of a few more hits and maybe one more new track, assuming that U2 actually has something on the new record that's a good show closer rather than falling back on One, Bad or ISHWILF.

The 13-song rotation allows for quite a bit of variety as obviously U2 could swap out one album's representative song for another on any given night. One night Boy's representative can be 'I Will Follow,' the next night it can be 'Electric Co,' etc.

There's also no real rule that says U2 has to follow their actual album chronology. So they could go ATYCLB song-Unforgettable Fire song-Rattle & Hum song-NLOTH song and so forth rather than Boy-October-War-UF, etc. This allows for more flexibility with shaping the 13 songs into a "musical journey" as U2 like doing with their setlists or telling a story a la the 10-song Innocence set.

You might argue that U2 would be limiting themselves from not being able to fully sample their best-known albums and songs, though this isn't really the case. Consider their Amsterdam show from last September 13....the band played songs from 10 of their 13 current albums, so already a lot of variety. The I+E tour has already showcased tracks from 12 of the 13 albums, save anything from Pop. The encore also allows U2 to fit in any "extra" songs --- so for instance, Streets/WOWY will both still always get played, just with one in the main set and one in the encore.

Sample setlist...
1. NEW SONG
2. NEW SONG
3. NEW SONG
4. NEW SONG (which hopefully has a great natural intro into...)
5. Where The Streets Have No Name
6. I Will Follow
7. Mysterious Ways
8. Gloria
9. Angel Of Harlem (acoustic)
10. Stay (acoustic)
11. Magnificent
12. City Of Blinding Lights
13. New Year's Day
14. Beautiful Day
15. Staring At The Sun
16. Raised By Wolves
17. Bad
18. NEW SONG
----encore break
19. One
20. Vertigo
21. Pride
22. NEW SONG
23. With Or Without You


Whaddya think?
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For Experience, I think that what would make more sense is to have a setlist more based on the 90s and 2000s, and less on the 80s - on this tour, to promote Innocence, we can have up to 11/12 songs from the 80s, which is a lot in this moment of their career.

1. MOFO
2. NEW SONG
3. Discothèque
4. Crystal Ballroom
4. NEW SONG (which hopefully has a great natural intro into...)
5. Where The Streets Have No Name
6. NEW SONG
7. NEW SONG
8. Beautiful Day
9. Every Breaking Wave
10. Stay (acoustic) / Man and a Woman (Acoustic)
11. Magnificent
12. Until the End of The World
13. Invisible
14. Vertigo
15. Staring At The Sun
16. Please
17. Bad
18. NEW SONG
----encore break
19. This is Where You Can Reach Me Now
20. Acrobat
21. New Year's Day
22. One
23. NEW SONG
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:01 AM   #3
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I agree with transmaniac. Current shows include quite a bit of the older songs, so the experience tour should logically include newer songs. But you're quite optimistic to put Acrobat in the encore
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But you're quite optimistic to put Acrobat in the encore

Or having so much Pop, and really? Especially as the intro


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I think it's a pretty safe bet that the 2016 tour and setlist will follow a similar structure to 2015's setlist, with or without Songs of Experience.

Not the same set, although I'm sure some elements will remain... but I have to think they'll try to lay out a story again with the songs to match, have an "intermission" in the middle, the rotating e stage set, etc etc.

Perhaps they'll go with the second set that they were planning when they were still going to do two completely different nights, or at least a modified version of whatever it was that was planned for night 2

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I look forward to Pop not being suited to Experience either
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Supposing that the Experience show follows a similar arc to the Innocence gigs I could see it looking something like this

01 - The Miracle (of Joey Ramone) NEW SONG
02 - Out of Control The Fly
03 - Do you remember Rock 'n Roll Radio (Snippet) / Vertigo
04 - I Will Follow Beautiful Day
05 - Iris (Hold me Close) NEW SONG
06 - Cedarwood Road NEW SONG
07 - Song for Someone NEW SONG
08 - Sunday Bloody Sunday Peace on Earth
09 - Raised by Wolves / Psalm 23 (snippet) Please
10 - Untill the End of the World / Love and Peace or Else (snippet) Love Is Blindness
-------- Intermission : The Lounge Fly Remix) ------
11 - Invisible Daddy's Gonna Pay
12 - Even Better than the Real Thing
13 - Mysterious Ways / Burning down the house Discotheque
14 - Desire / Not fade away / Love me do (snippets) NEW SONG
15 - Angel of Harlem / Into the Mystic (snippet) NEW SONG
16 - Every Breaking Wave
17 - October Stay
18 - Bullet the Blue Sky / Ode to Joy (snippet) NEW SONG
19 - Zooropa
20 - Where the Streets have no name / California (There is no end to love- snippet) The Wanderer
21 - New York
22 - With or Without you
-------Intermission -------
23 - City of Blinding Lights Sometime You Can't Make It...
24 - Moment of Surrender
25 - Mother and Child Reunion (snipet) / I still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For Streets
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04 - I Will Follow Get on Your Boots
20 - Where the Streets have no name / California (There is no end to love- snippet) Numb
Boots and no Streets?

Edit: ah, you added in Streets as I was posting
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I agree with transmaniac. Current shows include quite a bit of the older songs, so the experience tour should logically include newer songs. But you're quite optimistic to put Acrobat in the encore
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Old 10-10-2015, 03:28 AM   #11
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The think given it's the innocence/experience tour that innocence will still come first so..

The Miracle
Vertigo
I Will Follow
Pride
Cedarwood Road
New Song
New Year's Day
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Raised By Wolves
Until The End Of The World
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New Song
Even Better Than The Real Thing
Mysterious Ways
New Song
Stay
October/Every Breaking Wave
Bullet The Blue Sky
Bad
Streets
New Song
With Or Without You
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City
Beautiful Day
One
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Old 10-10-2015, 01:38 PM   #12
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I agree, especially if SoE is to SoI as Zooropa was to Achtung Baby (as in a slightly smaller, possibly less commercial album).

It also wouldn't make sense to just completely ditch SoI, and it would feel kind of weird to start with 'Experience' songs and then do 'Innocence' ones, that lack of timeline would just be odd.

Therefore, I envision them doing it like the Zootv Sydney show, which still had the AB songs up front, but sprinkled Zooropa tunes later on, and in the encore.

I also think, even if the 2016 tour focuses on the concept of experience by playing 90's tunes, they won't ditch a lot of the earlier material they're playing now. One, because as i said two paragraphs above, i predict they'll keep a lot of SoI material (and therefore will have earlier, 80's songs to play alongside them), and two, they're still playing 90's and 00's material right now, despite this tour focusing on 'Innocence' more: Regardless of theme, it's still a u2 show, and many people will want to hear the big hits no matter how they fit in.

My predictions are based on SoE being a Zooropa type album.. if it actually yields proper hit singles (which tbh, at this stage in u2's career would pleasantly surprise me), i could see them putting the SoE tunes more in the forefront of the show.

Either way, i'd be curious what SoI songs they would drop if they play SoE material. I imagine the Miracle and Song for Someone staying, as they seem to have been received quite well. Every Breaking Wave seems a real struggle for Bono to sing, but again i've seen some impressive audience reaction to it, and the band seem quite proud of it. Iris seems the least impressive to me, and Cedarwood road (though i love it) doesn't seem to have a huge reaction, but they both seem like quite core parts of the show. I'm basing this off just bootlegs and youtube videos though - does anyone who's been to a show know which of the new songs are doing well/not so well?
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:29 AM   #13
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Well right now Iris, Cedarwood Road and Raised by Wolves are the core narrative of the show (they live largely off of the screen). So if they change the narrative they logically should change this part. But that means a whole new visual concept. But since we have no idea if they'll be playing the experience tour in arenas or stadiums, hence with the same stage or a new one, it's really hard to predict. As per current "news" / rumors it seems that in 2016 they'll stay in European arenas, possibly starting in march. I don't think they'll release the album in between AND come up with a new concept for the show. I rather think 2016 will be the same concept, then a break to release SOE and rethink the show (probably for stadiums). Which in turn means SOE = stadiums = new stage = new concept = possibility to change narrative and kick out some SOI songs that won't work so well eithout the current stage and screen (i.e. CR, Iris, RBW).
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That's a good point, but i think it's very possible that they'd maintain the SoI songs + visuals even after releasing Songs of Experience. It's not like SoE would be the next 'era' for them, it would be a very definitive continuation of the current era (the tour is called 'Innocence and Experience, after all). Therefore, it wouldn't just be unnecessary for them to overhaul the tour, it might even be counterproductive.

They might just do what i suggested regarding treating SoE like Zooropa was on the ZooTV tour, and have it be represented later on in the set list. It would make chronological sense, if they keep the intermission, to have the first half focus on innocence (and maintain the songs, visuals and narrative they already have), and then make the second half more thematic than it is now by having a similar (maybe not as prominent) focus on SoE that they already have for SoI.

And they'd theoretically have december, january and february to come up with some visuals/ stage set up/ set list that would focus on SoE (again, in a smaller way to how they already focus on SoI). That could definitely be feasible depending on how far along they are with the album. If they're quite near the finishing line already, it wouldn't be such a big deal (plus it's possible that they have been working on marrying SoE to the setlist this entire time, given they've been recording it whilst touring). If they're actually seriously far away from completing it, and need to devote between december and march (between tour legs) entirely to finishing SoE, then i could see it being plausible that they'd hold off on releasing it until it can be properly finished AND represented on tour, as you suggest.
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I agree that SOE could be included in the current set. I was suggesting that they drop CR, Iris and RBW based on the idea of a stadium tour. Dtadium means new stage. And these three songs won't work very well without the very strong visual part to support them. That doesn't mean that SOI is kicked out of the setlist entirely. One of the three might stay + Song for Someone, Miracle and Every Breaking Wave which indeed work very well live. Then put in some new songs and drop some of the earlier 80 songs for some 90s 00s songs (basically as suggested above).
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