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I used to think that. But the Vertigo tour changed my mind. I thought Bad worked better closing than 40 on Vertigo. 40 was perfect to close for 80's U2 but it didnt seem to have quite the same effect when they did it on Vertigo.
A lot of people? I've seen one poster who has actually seen this show and not liked it.As far as deserving more wouldnt that pertain to myself and the fan who shells out hundreds of dollars to see this band. I'm not saying its true as I havent seen this tour yet but alot of people are saying that the band is just going thru the motions and seeing static set lists from a band who is supposed to be the biggest band in the world lends credence to that thought.
Why are you equating set list with "going thru the motions"?In my opinion I spent 200 dollars to see them in New Jersey (which is a ridiculous amount of money to charge but I'm fortunate to have a good job that pays pretty well) and the other fans who shell out good money to see them deserve more. I hope what people are saying about the band going thru the motions are wrong.
Again I would like to ask any of the musicians out there whats the big F#king deal about changing a set list? Especially when your professional musicians???
Do Broadway actors get bored? It's the type of band they are, do they act bored to you?
actually, yes, after attending 25+ shows from 1992 through the present and viewing every commercially released show and countless bootleg videos dozens of times, i can say without hesitation that edge and especially larry appear painfully bored to me quite a bit. Now of course, I haven't the faintest idea how they feel. I am just stating what impression I get from their facial expressions and body language. And why do I speculate? Because I am a U2 fan interacting with other U2 fans and I am curious what others think about this topic. There is nothing deeper to it than that.
First of all .. I'm an Edge fan. But the 2 persons who seems to enjoy themselves are Bono and Adam. Adam is the only one with a big smile on his face. It really hurts to say this, Edge is just standing there with his feet tapping. Larry cant even smile. Even when he was running with this bongo thing. But I can understand what you're saying here. This is a forum so interacting is good. I was at Paris last saturday and I didn't know the setlist. After moment of surrender i said to my friend : is this all??? They are damned musicians who like to play music (at least I hope) so why not play as many somngs you can : like Bruce Springsteen. Popmart was static, Elevation a bit rotating, Vertigo 3 songs rotation and now only in a little while and desire are rotating? i just don't get it. The worst thing is : casual fans really don't understand it. How can I explain how I feel. It's so hard to day it is a great concert, but it is not what I expected. For me UF and UV were great, but too less for this concert. i'm wondering how they decide what songs to play. All those JT hits they are playing them night after night after night since 1987 .. they must get bored with this ...
I hope in the next 2.5 week something will change or else I guess I will only remember the return of the unforgettable fire and ultra violet and the new songs. Speaking of new songs : crazy remix sucks hard and why no fez ...
fez is soooo U2 and they won't play it ...
First of all .. I'm an Edge fan. But the 2 persons who seems to enjoy themselves are Bono and Adam. Adam is the only one with a big smile on his face. It really hurts to say this, Edge is just standing there with his feet tapping. Larry cant even smile. Even when he was running with this bongo thing. But I can understand what you're saying here. This is a forum so interacting is good. I was at Paris last saturday and I didn't know the setlist. After moment of surrender i said to my friend : is this all??? They are damned musicians who like to play music (at least I hope) so why not play as many somngs you can : like Bruce Springsteen. Popmart was static, Elevation a bit rotating, Vertigo 3 songs rotation and now only in a little while and desire are rotating? i just don't get it. The worst thing is : casual fans really don't understand it. How can I explain how I feel. It's so hard to day it is a great concert, but it is not what I expected. For me UF and UV were great, but too less for this concert. i'm wondering how they decide what songs to play. All those JT hits they are playing them night after night after night since 1987 .. they must get bored with this ...
I hope in the next 2.5 week something will change or else I guess I will only remember the return of the unforgettable fire and ultra violet and the new songs. Speaking of new songs : crazy remix sucks hard and why no fez ...
fez is soooo U2 and they won't play it ...
I ask because I am a fairly young in shape musician and I can tell you singing for 2+ hours is exhausting, and tough on the voice. So this, "why can't they play longer" is bullshit. Springsteen is abnomaly.What has this to do with "are you a musician"? No I'm not a musician. i don't get paid to sings once every 4 years. Then again i didn't say that the voice is bad, on contrary, Bono's voice is very good. That is why I don't understand that after a superb ultra violet with the full range notes he started to "sing" WOWY in the way he does it now. I just don't get it.
I ask because I am a fairly young in shape musician and I can tell you singing for 2+ hours is exhausting, and tough on the voice. So this, "why can't they play longer" is bullshit. Springsteen is abnomaly.
It's not about playing specific songs, it's about rotation. Playing Wire or Mofo every night would be ridiculous, but rotating them with, say, Angel of Harlem would be welcome indeed.
actually, pearl jam plays 2.5 - 3 hour shows with 28-32 songs and eddie is 44 and SCREAMS alot.
A lot of people? I've seen one poster who has actually seen this show and not liked it.
I guess thats me!?
I actually didnt say i didnt like the show, just thought it should have been better?
Re. The static set-listargumentdiscussion, heres a thought....
The 'keyboard warriors' sat at home watching youtube clips, setlist parties etc and have a ticket to see say just Wembley 2 concert. They know pretty much the set back to front before they go.
They see the show and think well yeah it was really good and see tickets are available for Sheffield and Cardiff still.
They may think theres no point going again as it will be basically the same set
Wouldnt it better for them to think that is was a great show and i will do my utmost to grab a ticket and shit knows what gems i may hear?
I know with U2 that is unrealistic.
All i ask is for an element of surprise occasionally in what song comes next
I know 'we' are a minority in the 90k crowds. But sometimes 'we' CAN make the most noise
Even people NOT at shows can create a bit of a buzz around the tour imo. People not going/been to shows are allowed opinions. They are fans after all
Breathe is not a good opener
We should get a time machine and go back to 92 and bitch about those setlists and talk about how they were just going through the motions.
Ah but did you actually go to a show
U2 was at its best during Zoo Tv and thats hard for me to say because the Joshua Tree Tour was awesome.
thats funny...my first show was March, 1992 at the indoor zoo tv show at nassau coliseum on long island. i remember the pixies opened and played their set with the house lights on and construction crews still rigging the trabant cars and the ZOO TV sign. No one paid any attention. I was so young and naive and blown away by the show that the concept of "set lists" did not even cross my mind. If I only knew then...haha
So they were at their best when their setlist were more static and they were more choreographed?
This place is so confusing...
This is going to be a pointless discussion. It will have no end.
So they were at their best when their setlist were more static and they were more choreographed?
This place is so confusing...
ZooTV was special. If a band is lucky they have a peak similar to U2's during UF days. U2 has surpassed what most bands want several times over, including the current tours.No it is not. U2 was at its best musicaly, visualy and they were downright fanfuckingtastic. Not a surprise if you look at their age during zoo, all beginning 30, the peak of creativity, a mindblowing groundbreaking tour and an album that ruled the world to promote. Everything afterwards has been a downfall. The good thing is that their downfall is still miles ahead of most if not any band that it doesnt realy matter but they will never get to the level they had at zoo which would be a bit too much to ask from a band almost in their 50's. The setlist wasnt so important because everything they did back then was new, fresh and exciting. They made a gamble dumping the oldies and making a rock n rolshow that was so different from anything ever done by a band.
No it is not. U2 was at its best musicaly, visualy and they were downright fanfuckingtastic. Not a surprise if you look at their age during zoo, all beginning 30, the peak of creativity, a mindblowing groundbreaking tour and an album that ruled the world to promote. Everything afterwards has been a downfall. The good thing is that their downfall is still miles ahead of most if not any band that it doesnt realy matter but they will never get to the level they had at zoo which would be a bit too much to ask from a band almost in their 50's. The setlist wasnt so important because everything they did back then was new, fresh and exciting. They made a gamble dumping the oldies and making a rock n rolshow that was so different from anything ever done by a band.
Who can forget the special with Adam clayton laying on a bed or Edge playing a wargame on his computer. They were just a different band, in a different area and I am glad to have been a part of that.
ZooTV was special. If a band is lucky they have a peak similar to U2's during UF days. U2 has surpassed what most bands want several times over, including the current tours.
They only dumped the "oldies" for the arena aspect of the tour, then they returned to the type of setlist we're all bitching about right now.
I think it's completely ridiculous to bitch about non-varied set list and being too broadway and choreographed and then say ZooTV was their best. It's a complete contradiction.
apologies to Pink Floyd fans. i seem to remember them having some pretty groundbreaking show designs in the early 90s. But i don't think they had the mainstream public awareness that U2 did.