joyfulgirl
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I love them both. I wasn't as sold on this season of BB as everyone else until last night. Cranston and Gunn were just phenomenal.
Just checking: am I the only one left who still prefers Mad Men? (just to name one show)
They're such different animals that it's hard for me to evaluate one against the other. BrBa hits you on such a visceral level, so that likens itself to a bit of hyperbole. Mad Men is much more nuanced. Picking a favorite would change for me any given day. They're both utterly fantastic, as close to perfect as television can get, and we're lucky to even be able to have such a discussion.
They're both utterly fantastic, as close to perfect as television can get, and we're lucky to even be able to have such a discussion.
Just checking: am I the only one left who still prefers Mad Men? (just to name one show)
That was a very intense episode.
Im wondering if Walter kills everyone but spares Todd. Or maybe Jesse kills Todd, hell, maybe Jesse kills Walt. Or Marie kills Walt....
This shit could go a bunch of different directions. But there's definitely some shit fixing to go down.....
Granite State and then Felina, and then im going to need some fucking therapy
Just checking: am I the only one left who still prefers Mad Men? (just to name one show)
There are times when MM shows its seams, when it feels forced, when not everything works. And that makes the moments when it casts it's spell that much sweeter.
Just checking: am I the only one left who still prefers Mad Men? (just to name one show)
I hope the series doesn't end with him alive.
The magnets ep was a shark jump that was highly entertaining but showed that the show's scale had perhaps grown too large. Watch that back to back with terminator Gus and you'll wonder where the hell the days of choking a dude with a bike lock to keep from being stabbed with a broken plate went. I love the pure terror and bewilderment of those early episodes and I think Walt has grown to be nearly superhuman (in that sense I agree with IWB), which is partially why I hope the series doesn't end with him alive.
Well-observed.
Though I think we'll have to disagree on Mad Men. Yes, there are some episodes that are "soapy", but The Crash was a live-wire act that showed the MM crew still has the ability to try something different.
And personally, I'll take the last scene of this year's finale over any nail-biting moment from Breaking Bad.
I'm endlessly fascinated by people's reactions to this show's growing scope. To me, the biggest issues of "believability" or "realism" stem more from viewer expectations and ideas of narrative fulfillment vs. what is actually being presented. Tone is a tricky element to measure, though I've always been a proponent of fiction that operates on its own volition in a narrative or genre-context as long as the thematic stays consistent. The magnet moment is full-blown supervillain science fiction shit amidst a series that roots itself as either a spaghetti western or an outlaw drama. At this point, the genre in which the drama is being delivered is only a vessel for the consistently evolving elements of the series.
BTW, Breaking Bad vs. Mad Men has become the new Joy Division vs. New Order of Zoo Station.
Tonight just broke my heart.
That time compression and fast reveal of all of these threads (in what, two weeks max?) are what's making for a thrilling endgame. How are folks digesting the whole series at one time gonna feel about this?
The more I think about the last episode (Ozymandias), the more I think Walt has finally realized what he has done. I think after that last confrontation with his family, he saw himself through their eyes, as the thing that he's become, a monster.
Laz, what other current shows do you keep up with besides Mad Men & Breaking Bad?
I like Vince Gilligan way more than Matthew Weiner, who kind of seems like a dick.