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Old 09-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #736
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Didn't Lydia take something with her tea? It wouldn't be too hard to slip in the contents of a certain cigarette in there
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Good catch. She said "I'll need more Stevia."
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Yeah, I rather like the Stevia/ricin idea.
How does this help Walter? He's not going to know how Lydia takes her tea. And the guy with the information, Todd, has no interest in killing her.


Also, a missed opportunity here as I was expecting to see Walt learn of Andrea's death through the stack of Albuquerque papers. I then thought the guilt over being indirectly responsible would lead to his return, instead of some crazed revenge spree.

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Old 09-23-2013, 02:28 PM   #737
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while the odds of him being in a bar and seeing Gretchen and Eliot on the TV are rather improbable, as a motivation for the return to ABQ, i found it rich and brilliant and tied us back to season 1 and when he went to the birthday party and gave Eliot the super lame gift and refused their offer to pay for his treatment.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:32 PM   #738
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I don't think the ricin is for himself - isn't that a slow way to die? If he wanted a slow death, he'd just wait for the cancer to get him.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:48 PM   #739
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So I guess that was Saul's sendoff? It was effective as an inversion of Walt's glowering "We're not done" from the front half of the season.

Robert Forster was pretty awesome casting.
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I didn't expect any tie in to Andrea's death nor would I expect him to care enough for it to cause him to feel enough guilt to do anything really, especially after spitefully telling Jesse that he watched Jane die. I definitely wouldn't buy that any notion of regret over her would lead him to want to return, if we had been presented with that I'd consider that a flaw in the writing, frankly.

He's far more concerned with his own ego and the satisfaction of his twisted notion of self-vindication, and so while it's a bit of a stretch that that interview just happened to be showing on the TV (well, not so much of a stretch, given that he's the subject of a nationwide manhunt and therefore his former connections would in fact likely be sought after by the media), it's certainly not a stretch that being reminded of it yet again would be the spark that gets him on his path to revenge. Certainly well in line with what we know of him, imo.
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Old 09-23-2013, 04:57 PM   #741
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So I guess that was Saul's sendoff? It was effective as an inversion of Walt's glowering "We're not done" from the front half of the season. Robert Forster was pretty awesome casting.
I'd pay $10,000 to hang out with him for an hour, too.

Todd was fucking terrifying this week. Having a Heisenberg disciple more or less be the one who replaces him speaks toward the same cyclical kingpin lifestyle that Walt envisioned when he had Gus killed. Not a new theory, but one that came into focus a bit after last night.
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My guess is that Jesse kills himself before Walt sees him again.
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Todd was fucking terrifying this week.
That scene with Skylar was chilling.
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That scene with Skylar was chilling.
Agreed with those comments. Todd is the absolute anti-Jesse: Jesse is the fuck-up, loser kid with a good heart and a conscious that can't live with the horrible things he's done. Todd is the clean-cut, polite kid, with no heart, totally devoid of emotions and conscious.
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Agreed with those comments. Todd is the absolute anti-Jesse: Jesse is the fuck-up, loser kid with a good heart and a conscious that can't live with the horrible things he's done. Todd is the clean-cut, polite kid, with no heart, totally devoid of emotions and conscious.

Todd is exactly who Walter thought he wanted Jesse to be -- cold, ruthless, no mistakes.
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Jesse gets people killed
Todd keeps people alive.
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And yes, I think all hell will break loose in the finale. I think it will be sad. I think it will be, in some way, poetic. Because 97 percent of the time Breaking Bad is poetic. But I can’t quite let go of “Granite State” just yet. Part of me thinks that the finale, as Walt’s Last Stand, will be in some ways catering to the fans of the show and giving them some kind of epic blowout ending.

What I loved most about “Granite State,” in contrast, is that it was not epic. It was not a finale we’ll talk about forever. It was a penultimate episode that spoke volumes about bad decisions and failed dreams and having everything you ever tried to do turn to shit. Good people making bad decisions ultimately ends with bad people making bad decisions because that’s all they can do. Those are the only options they have left.
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My guess is that Jesse kills himself before Walt sees him again.


When he started unwinding (? unraveling? straightening?) the paper clip, I thought he was going to try and cut his wrists with it.
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Yes. Indeed, yes.
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I know they said the Saul spinoff will be a prequel, but obviously they had to say that whether it is or isn't so not to spoil the remaining Breaking Bad episodes. But I was thinking it would be pretty funny if his new show opens with him managing a Cinnabon.
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