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Old 12-09-2004, 08:01 AM   #31
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for myself, christmas is a celebration of commercialism.

go commercialism!
Hey, however you want to celebrate it is cool with me.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:45 AM   #32
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Santa Claus...I really don't care where Santa is; play him in the school, the Gap, the gas station, I really don't care

I find Santa Claus being pushed down my kids throat offensive.
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i think society has pretty much agreed that jesus isn't okay in public schools, but at home and in your yard, you can erect shrines to zeus for all anyone else cares.
If this statement was true, we wouldn't be discussing it.

There is a difference between teaching Jesus and mentioning Jesus.
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If this statement was true, we wouldn't be discussing it.

There is a difference between teaching Jesus and mentioning Jesus.

yes, exactly. jesus belongs in history classes as a historical figure, he does not belong coming out of the mouths of 4th graders in a specifically worshipful context ("christ the savior is born" "oh come let us adore him christ the lord") during a mandatory holiday concert.
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he does not belong coming out of the mouths of 4th graders in a specifically worshipful context ("christ the savior is born" "oh come let us adore him christ the lord") during a mandatory holiday concert.
Singing does not equal worship. It is still subject to dispute and not societal agreement.
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That really wasn't irony. Unless you are taking English lessons from Ms. Alanis Morrsiette...
You guys really need some vocab lessons.
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You guys really need some vocab lessons.
i·ro·ny ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies

The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.

Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: “Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated” (Richard Kain).
An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity. See Usage Note at ironic.
Dramatic irony.
Socratic irony.

sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.
The use of sarcasm.


i'm also a dorky SAT tutor. i know my vocab.
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Thanks Irv, your "dorky" vocabulary is appreciated whenever necessary.
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A woman was out Christmas shopping with her two children. After many hours of looking at row after row of toys and everything else imaginable; and after hours of hearing both her children asking for everything they saw on those many shelves, she finally made it to the elevator with her two kids.

She was feeling what so many of us feel during the holiday season time of the year. Overwhelming pressure to go to every party, every housewarming, taste all the holiday food and treats, getting that perfect gift for every single person on our shopping list, making sure we don't forget anyone on our card list, and the pressure of making sure we respond to everyone who sent us a card.

Finally the elevator doors opened and there was already a crowd in the car. She pushed her way into the car and dragged her two kids in with her and all the bags of stuff. When the doors closed she couldn't take it anymore and stated, "Whoever started this whole Christmas thing should be found, strung up and shot."

From the back of the car, everyone heard a quiet calm voice respond, "Don't worry, we already crucified Him." For the rest of the trip down the elevator it was so quiet you could have heard a pin drop.

Don't forget this year to keep the One who started this whole Christmas thing in your every thought, deed, purchase, and word. If we all did it, just think of how different this whole world would be.
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I find Santa Claus being pushed down my kids throat offensive.
Then tell them the truth, that he doesn't exist.
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Then tell them the truth, that he doesn't exist.

WHAT!?!?!?!

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You guys really need some vocab lessons.
Now, you see that's ironic. The person who didn't know what irony was telling me I need vocabulary lessons. Now you're getting the hang of it.
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WHAT!?!?!?!

Sorry I should have placed a warning on my post...I go back edit it if I can.
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Sorry I should have placed a warning on my post...I go back edit it if I can.
too late. i've already converted to Judaism. at least they won't lie to me about fat men who break into my house late at night.
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Then tell them the truth, that he doesn't exist.
I can prove he does!
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