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Old 12-14-2004, 04:32 AM   #256
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why is there so many pages on what can only be speculation, yet no one can answer my questions?
im feeling neglected.
woe.
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Old 12-14-2004, 04:47 AM   #257
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I have much respect for many people who do not share my opinion in here. I never have called anyone or even hinted to the idea that anyone in here was heartless, mindless, or soulless.
I have also never used the word redneck and never have I called an individual a homophobe for that matter.

No just holier than thou.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:32 AM   #258
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why is there so many pages on what can only be speculation, yet no one can answer my questions?
im feeling neglected.
woe.
What was the question again....pretend I am a bad student.
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Old 12-14-2004, 10:56 AM   #259
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wow....i for so long avoided this thread because it seemed like something i didn't want to deal with..."who cares if paul was gay?" was my dreaded question. dread, i've noticed you are asking a lot of interesting questions lately...keep it up.
this thread has been fascinating to sift through. i felt a lot of geniune love for your neighbor in this, and tempers have been pretty cool.
anyways, can i through a loop out there? most scholars believe that most of the writings attributed to Paul did not actually come from Paul. I can get the list from my best friend of which are believed to have been penned by Paul and which are not likely paul's. (Along same lines, Peter probably did not write all three "essays." One is in formal greek, another in sloppy and another in an entirely different language that i cannot think of right now...or something like that)
I find it fascinating that many american christians think that their stance is liberal. My grandpa was a chaplain with the southern baptist church in california but retired because they would not allow women to be chaplains if they had to preach. he thinks that he is progressive. some christians i have met belive they're more liberal because they believe in the love the sinner, hate the sin attitude in regards to homosexuality. and of course i think i'm liberal because i'm a PK who doesn't attend church, doesn't call himself a christian, believes homosexuality is genetic to a large degree, voted against Bush, believes in socialism etc.
One last thought, i was watching a program and someone said something that felt like a slap in the face. i realized how ignorant i am. this guy was talking about his friends responding to his "coming-out." they kept asking, "so when did you know?" and he said something like, "it was so strange, i kept asking them, so when did you know you were straight?"
Ooh, i thought of something else to add.
If you look over the course of history you notice that whenever a population has struggled, stringent sexual laws are put into effect. this kind of thing happens with animal populations when they are barely surviving. but once a population becomes successful, same-sex relationships become more prevalent. it seems that it is instinctual for animals to derprive themselves of their normal sexual desires for the benefit of society or the population when needed.
May i also add that homosexuality isn't just about sex, no more than my heterosexuality is just about sex. I find that I can only intimately and romantically love a woman.
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Old 12-14-2004, 01:05 PM   #260
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May i also add that homosexuality isn't just about sex, no more than my heterosexuality is just about sex. I find that I can only intimately and romantically love a woman.



bra-VO!

this is what i've been saying for so long, and is so fundamental to why homosexuality cannot be a sin. it's not an act, its an inextricable part of one's identity. of course, if you must "hate the sin and love the sinner," or you simply want to justify your own prejudices, it's much easier to reduce people to the definition of that single, defining characteristic that makes them different from you. i feel fully confident that, were Jesus alive today, he'd bless gay marriages and unions as much as he would bless straight ones, provided both unions share the same blueprints of love, intimacy, trust, and companionship.
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this guy was talking about his friends responding to his "coming-out." they kept asking, "so when did you know?" and he said something like, "it was so strange, i kept asking them, so when did you know you were straight?"
It's a good question. It's not like there was ever a day, a moment, a eureka...well, I guess there could be a eureka...but for most of us, straight and gay, I think it just always was/is.
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this is what i've been saying for so long, and is so fundamental to why homosexuality cannot be a sin. it's not an act, its an inextricable part of one's identity.
Exactly. Back in the early 80's I remember that whenever one of my gay friends was seeing someone, everyone would refer to that person as their 'lover.' It really irritated me because it reduced the relationship to sex. Occasionally I hear someone refer to their hetero partner as their lover, but it used to be a term used almost exclusively to refer to someone's gay or lesbian partner. Not that I am crazy about the word 'partner' either since it sounds like business relationship.
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:32 PM   #263
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What was the question again....pretend I am a bad student.
Sorry Dread dear. It is in the 'Is it starting' thread.

I'm not going to give up until someone finally gives dimension to their beliefs.

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