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Old 01-31-2018, 12:57 PM   #1036
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it's amazing that you can actually type with your head that far up your own ass.

This is both unnecessarily rude and not helpful in the slightest to actually having any meaningful discussion.

Let’s do better than that, please.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:13 PM   #1037
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You two are truly incredible. The Republicans have all three houses, guys. Your strategy isn't working.
claiming that the things you say are "the most reasonable, most true things possible" is fucking asinine and makes you sound *exactly* like trump. it turns people who might otherwise listen to what you have to say way the fuck off. i think irvine's characterization is a lot more on the mark than you care to admit.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:22 PM   #1038
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I dunno. Peefsky doesn't come in at you like you're suggesting. Seems to me like he's entirely disaffected because he's tired of fitting the mould of some cliche character of politics that gets marginalized.

Here's the thing. We can all agree that Trump is an asshat whose whole schtick is made up and he's a con. But it seems we've lost the ability to discuss, for example, left-center vs left debate. It does seem as though each constituent thinks their opposition side represents the only side.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:32 PM   #1039
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that's fair. i do have a knee jerk tendency sometimes to fire all barrels especially at things i think are overly pretentious. a claim that what you have to say is the "most true things possible" is pretty ridiculous, and my intent is always to attack the statement and not the person. but if i was too personal then i apologize to peef.
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Don't be mean to peef, it makes me sad.
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I am not saying everything I say is "true" in the sense you are implying, I meant I have seen "Resistance" types all over the place balk at even plainly stated things and it's immensely frustrating. And this exact scenario, the focusing on certain turns of phrase and making them into much bigger deals than they were meant to be is another one.

I do apologize for one thing: I am not on this forum nearly as often as I used to be because I just have way less time on my hands aged 27 and with a time-consuming job. I deliberately deleted the app for this forum from my phone years ago. So the only time I am on here is when I have a break from work and am at my desk. It lends to me making sweeping, broad statements that probably come off in an unintended fashion because I seem totally unwilling to engage on specifics. Rather, it's because so much is happening so often and I am unable to comment on each one individually here. When you stop by once a month or so, you're posting about moods more than specific events and policy.

I will say one thing that bothers me and is probably influencing most my frustration is the inexplicable coronation of Joe Kennedy that has occurred from mainstream Dems over the last week. Maybe a more specific conversation like that can lead to a more constructive discussion. How do we feel about him being put forth as a face of the movement?
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My reaction to Kennedy was "oh, another political dynasty, and another white dude."
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Don't be mean to peef, it makes me sad.
I'm certainly complicit in it and have been an Online Person (Twitter has undoubtedly been the most influential medium for me) for far too long for any of this to rankle me once I exit the browser, but I appreciate the sentiment nonetheless. I hope you (as well as everyone else here) are doing well.
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My goal is to try and get people to stop being needlessly mean to other posters, or needling them. Even if it's being done by people I am friendly with.

Is life not enough of a shitshow that we have to add to it online? I'm not perfect and like to snark, and have bitchy moments, but .... yeah.

(I will also try to not be an insufferable pill about it.)
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I am not saying everything I say is "true" in the sense you are implying, I meant I have seen "Resistance" types all over the place balk at even plainly stated things and it's immensely frustrating. And this exact scenario, the focusing on certain turns of phrase and making them into much bigger deals than they were meant to be is another one.

I do apologize for one thing: I am not on this forum nearly as often as I used to be because I just have way less time on my hands aged 27 and with a time-consuming job. I deliberately deleted the app for this forum from my phone years ago. So the only time I am on here is when I have a break from work and am at my desk. It lends to me making sweeping, broad statements that probably come off in an unintended fashion because I seem totally unwilling to engage on specifics. Rather, it's because so much is happening so often and I am unable to comment on each one individually here. When you stop by once a month or so, you're posting about moods more than specific events and policy.

I will say one thing that bothers me and is probably influencing most my frustration is the inexplicable coronation of Joe Kennedy that has occurred from mainstream Dems over the last week. Maybe a more specific conversation like that can lead to a more constructive discussion. How do we feel about him being put forth as a face of the movement?
thank you for posting this and explaining a bit about where you're coming from. i will try to be a bit less heated in the future. again i apologize if i got personal, it's never my intention to be mean but i totally know that i get carried away sometimes. it's too easy to be a jerk to an avatar and a username when you wouldn't dream of being that way to the real person. i'm sure we'd have a swell time if we ever got to have a beer together. all the best peef.
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My goal is to try and get people to stop being needlessly mean to other posters, or needling them. Even if it's being done by people I am friendly with.

Is life not enough of a shitshow that we have to add to it online? I'm not perfect and like to snark, and have bitchy moments, but .... yeah.


Gosh Cori Anderstem do you ever stop talking
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Rarely. And I talk fast too, so you'd best be able to keep up.
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