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Old 06-14-2010, 04:51 PM   #901
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im all for a "tea party" movement, HOWEVER, the one we have now consists of religious, ignorant, stupid people that focus their energy on ridiculous "issues" when they should be focusing on the REAL problems that are fucking up this country such as big business, banks, and government corruption/inefficiency.
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Oh, good lord...*Puts head in hands, sighs exasperatedly*.

That guy will be such a charming addition to our Congress should he win. No, these people aren't downright terrifying. Not at all.

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Old 06-14-2010, 05:58 PM   #904
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All these Founding Fathers shticks are getting very old.
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that guy is pretty bad at acting to be pissed off
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im all for a "tea party" movement, HOWEVER, the one we have now consists of religious, ignorant, stupid people that focus their energy on ridiculous "issues" when they should be focusing on the REAL problems that are fucking up this country such as big business, banks, and government corruption/inefficiency.
I completely agree. The tea partiers need a "constitutional convention" of sorts, but it already may be too late. The way I remember it, the tea partiers formed (or at least became notably significant) in the early days of the Wall Street meltdown. People had a lot of anger that the architects of that greed had, with the help of lobbyists and politicians, rigged the system to make unbelievable amounts of money with no cosequences. When it all bombed, average taxpayers bailed them out. They never even said thank you. They just told us that if we didn't give them a trillion dollars, without even an accounting of how they'd spend any of it, we were all doomed.

I think that the tea partiers, at their core, are really grappling with the realization that the boy scout and Norman Rockwell notions of America that they were raised on, and fully want to believe still matter, may really just be a quaint notion for suckers. The real America they now see appears to be much more gangster after all. They are frustrated at the realization that such honest truths as pledging allegiance the flag, learning about our founding fathers, working hard, voting, etc may really be just for the "little people" who haven't figured out what it's really all about. So, for now, and after being compromised by political elements who want to make sure that the tea party's energy remains aimed at the wrong targets, tea partiers revolt against big government (with an undercurrent of probable racism, homophobia, etc -- you know, the usual distractions). I hope they can pull themselves together and figure out what really ails them.
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I completely agree. The tea partiers need a "constitutional convention" of sorts, but it already may be too late. The way I remember it, the tea partiers formed (or at least became notably significant) in the early days of the Wall Street meltdown. People had a lot of anger that the architects of that greed had, with the help of lobbyists and politicians, rigged the system to make unbelievable amounts of money with no cosequences. When it all bombed, average taxpayers bailed them out. They never even said thank you. They just told us that if we didn't give them a trillion dollars, without even an accounting of how they'd spend any of it, we were all doomed.

I think that the tea partiers, at their core, are really grappling with the realization that the boy scout and Norman Rockwell notions of America that they were raised on, and fully want to believe still matter, may really just be a quaint notion for suckers. The real America they now see appears to be much more gangster after all. They are frustrated at the realization that such honest truths as pledging allegiance the flag, learning about our founding fathers, working hard, voting, etc may really be just for the "little people" who haven't figured out what it's really all about. So, for now, and after being compromised by political elements who want to make sure that the tea party's energy remains aimed at the wrong targets, tea partiers revolt against big government (with an undercurrent of probable racism, homophobia, etc -- you know, the usual distractions). I hope they can pull themselves together and figure out what really ails them.
Good post.

I think there are three things the Tea Party need to learn:

1. First and foremost quit with the cultural war bullshit, it just makes you look stupid to the whole world.

2. Really, truly inform yourself about the Constitution, it's up to interpretation just as much as your Bible, and it will evolve and was designed to do so.

3. You can still believe in your Boy Scout notions, and I hope that you do, but when systems become so big and intertwined it only takes one or two to bring it down. Regulations are not evil. Not believing in capitalism without oversight is not giving up on man, nor is it socialist.
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Tea Party:

People who all of the sudden know what the word freedom means when their wallets are pinched, and a black man is elected. Perhaps, they should ask the true meaning of freedom from the 5,478 mothers of dead youngsters overseas who served their country to the end.
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If Glenn Beck is against him

then I am voting for him.
(absentee ballot)
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the issue was, you know, foreign taxation without representation. and that's what the real Boston tea party was actually about, not domestic taxation with representation. but whatever. it's just history.

until this movement comes out and explains just where they were under 8 years of Bush/GOP spending as well as a comprehensive plan to reduce spending on entitlements and especially defense, i'm just going to continue to assume that they're ignorant racist crybabies who just want another damn $300 a month.
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the issue was, you know, foreign taxation without representation. and that's what the real Boston tea party was actually about, not domestic taxation with representation. but whatever. it's just history.[/B]
And with the new editions of the Texas school books out there, I can only imagine how much more skewed that history will be .

That's been exactly my point, too, I've often wondered just how many of these people knew even what the hell happened at the original Tea Party. They claim to be so supportive of the founding fathers and the Constitution and all that stuff, and I get the feeling they don't really understand.

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until this movement comes out and explains just where they were under 8 years of Bush/GOP spending as well as a comprehensive plan to reduce spending on entitlements and especially defense, i'm just going to continue to assume that they're ignorant racist crybabies who just want another damn $300 a month.
Same here. It's very frustrating, because in terms of financial issues there may be some actual merit, but I can't look to them to solve these problems because most of the people just seem angry at best, insane at worst.

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And with the new editions of the Texas school books out there, I can only imagine how much more skewed that history will be .
This literally scares the shit out of me.

I grew up in this state, and as backwards as we come off to the rest of the country, and I admit we are very backwards at times socially. We're not nearly as bad as we come off, and we're not nearly as bad as some of the "true" southern states.

We actually have a pretty stellar record, or at least did when it came to education, so much in the sense that Texas has often proved the testing ground and standard for text book changes. This fact alone scares me.
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Texas has often proved the testing ground and standard for text book changes. This fact alone scares me.
Because you guys buy so damn many of them.
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