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Old 06-19-2011, 11:29 AM   #871
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we need to be aware of the civil rights of religious organizations to deny civil rights to other people as they see fit. because marriage is "sacred" and all that, for everyone, even if you are an atheist.

my sense is that this will happen. Cuomo seems far too savvy to have put so much into this for it not to pay off, and he's a very popular governor (61% in a land of 9% unemployment) and he will ride this into the primaries of 2016 with enormous cred from the Democratic base.

i don't think he'll fuck it up.

and if New York goes, California will follow.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:09 PM   #872
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We'll have to change our Constitution. Again.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:54 PM   #873
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some powerful footage from Albany, NY:

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Old 06-24-2011, 06:09 PM   #874
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Consensus Reached on Religious Exemptions in Gay Marriage Bill - NYTimes.com


well??

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ALBANY -- The state Senate will vote on same-sex marriage Friday night, its leader said.
"After many hours of deliberation and discussion over the past several weeks by members, it has been decided that same sex marriage legislation will be brought to the full Senate for an up or down vote," Majority Leader Dean Skelos, R-Long Island, said in a statement.
The measure's advocates have said they were optimistic that, although only 31 senators have publicly declared their support for the measure, it has the 32nd vote needed for passage. It remained unclear who the final affirmative senator would be.
Skelos said same-sex marriage was a "very difficult issue" and "will be a vote of conscience."

It was unclear how late Friday evening -- or early Saturday morning -- a vote would come.




Read more: Same-sex marriage heads for a vote - Times Union
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Old 06-24-2011, 06:21 PM   #875
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I say it will pass tonight or tomorrow

the only question is,
if a few more GOP will move over to the right side of history and common decency.


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Old 06-24-2011, 07:36 PM   #876
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:21 PM   #877
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anyone that wants to watch this live,
it is not on my cable tv, but the N Y Senate is on live stream here:

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currently they are debating a taxes /economy bill, next up should be gay marriage bill.
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:49 PM   #878
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GOP Saland steps up and does the right thing. I think.
Dem Diaz votes no.




the religious exemptions have been made a part of the the bill. there is an inseparability clause that gives cover for anyone that wants to vote yes.
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religious exemptions vote is happening now.

it passes with 36 votes, only needed 31
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GOP STATE SENATOR MARK GRISANTI will vote yes.

that puts count to at least 32 on Gay Marriage bill.
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33 yes !!


29 no


a great day for America


no turning back now.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:39 PM   #882
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I am very proud to be a New Yorker now, and I want to give a virtual hug to all the LGBT Interlanders.



Oh yeah, as a friend of mine said on FB, take that California!
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well done, NY. you did the right thing.

and well done, Gov. Cuomo.




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