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Old 06-15-2011, 07:03 PM   #856
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Old 06-16-2011, 07:03 PM   #857
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Uhoh, anarchy.



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Legislators in New York are debating whether to legalize gay marriage.

Sports figures, including former New York Giants defensive end Michael Strahan, have come out in support.

But not David Tyree. The former wide receiver and special teams player says same-sex marriage would cause "anarchy," reports ESPN. He made his statement in a video for the National Organization for Marriage.

"What I know will happen if this does come forth is this will be the beginning of our country sliding toward, it is a strong word, but anarchy," Tyree said in the video. "The moment we have, if you trace back even to other cultures, other countries, that will be the moment where our society in itself loses its grip with what's right."

YouTube - ‪David Tyree on Marriage: The NOM Interview‬‏
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"What I know will happen if this does come forth is this will be the beginning of our country sliding toward, it is a strong word, but anarchy," Tyree said in the video. "The moment we have, if you trace back even to other cultures, other countries, that will be the moment where our society in itself loses its grip with what's right."


as a professional athlete, he would know.
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Well to be fair all athletes are not clueless or ill advised. Many of them are quite smart. Not sure if that's what you were getting at.

I can't even bring myself to spend the time to watch the video, but maybe he should take a look at places that have had gay marriage for a while now. No signs of "anarchy" because of that, not that I can see. I think we still have a grip on what's right.
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I can't even bring myself to spend the time to watch the video, but maybe he should take a look at places that have had gay marriage for a while now. No signs of "anarchy" because of that, not that I can see. I think we still have a grip on what's right.

it's true. Massachusetts is in a state of chaos. it has the lowest divorce rate in the country, as well as the highest percentage of citizens with health care, not to mention professional sports teams that actually win Stanley Cups and Super Bowls and stuff.

madness.
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not to mention professional sports teams that actually win Stanley Cups and Super Bowls and stuff.

madness.
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YouTube - ‪Sen. Diaz Massive Bronx Rally For Marriage--With NOM's Brian Brown‬‏

Looks like the opposition to gay marriage isn't just from elderly white Republican males, as is often alleged on this forum!
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Looks like the opposition to gay marriage isn't just from elderly white Republican males, as is often alleged on this forum!


true.

though i've talked about intense homophobia from the black church before.

also, Diaz's granddaughter is gay and has spoken out against him politically on this issue.
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true.

though i've talked about intense homophobia from the black church before.
Indeed. I remember you talking about this issue before.
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true.

though i've talked about intense homophobia from the black church before.
Without question. The virulency of the homophobia I hear working in a predominantly black school and church is shocking to me.
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Without question. The virulency of the homophobia I hear working in a predominantly black school and church is shocking to me.


it does incredible damage to young black gay men.

also, we just had this whole Tracy Morgan incident.
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"You get to the point where you evolve in your life where everything isn't black and white, good and bad, and you try to do the right thing. You might not like that. You might be very cynical about that. Well, f--k it. I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing.

I'm tired of Republican-Democrat politics. They can take the job and shove it. I come from a blue-collar background. I'm trying to do the right thing, and that's where I'm going with this."

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I don't think the New York Senate is there yet.

It may take one more week, or not happen at all. I got to believe it will.

I hope it is not one GOP Senator that puts it over, but a hand full.

Andrew Cuomo OKs GOP Calls For Greater Religious Exemptions In Gay Marriage Bill | On Top Magazine :: Gay & Lesbian News, Entertainment, Commentary & Travel


If I were Cuomo, I would just let the good, decent religious folk, write up that the constitution allows them believe whatever they want and they have the right to discriminate against anyone they choose within there own organization and still keep their tax exempt status.
That is what this country was founded on.
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Well, to be fair, that's how the civil rights laws were written in the 60s.



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