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Old 08-15-2008, 05:37 PM   #46
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But it's not just "pointing out" it's making fun. What part of that do you not get?

The part where it's your opinion. What would be the difference between that picture and a picture of the team wearing, hm, I don't know, kimonos, or whatever it is they wear over there? Would that be offensive? Would that be making fun?
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I don't get how you think it's offensive. See, there are other cultures in the world besides the very picky and sensitive US culture. Take for instance, the spanish. They clearly don't seem to think it's offensive and I believe they are doing it with the most lighthearted intentions. I also don't see why it's offensive. It's not like no one knew what the asian eye shape is.
So what offends you as a person from Honduras? What can I call you or make fun of you for?

Don't say nothing, cause that's bull.
and then let me use it to refer to you even though I have no idea it is offensive to you.

So you think even though it's offensive to you and hurts you but I see no harm in it, I should be allowed to do it. Who's opinion means more, the person being offended, the ignorant offender or the person who is so removed from the situation and has no idea about the history of discrimination towards a particular group of people around the world. I vote for the person being offended.

And no offense to Americans, but I sure as hell ain't an American. Born in Canada so you're sensitive American culture argument doesn't play either.

And you're missing the point most people are making here, ignorance causing offense is acceptable. Not wanted but it happens due to not knowing the difference. Upon awareness of the offensiveness of an action, acknowledgment and apologies are appropriate. It doesn't matter if you don't think its offensive. I sure we can find lotsa clansman who don't think the use of the n-word is offensive either but besides being dumbasses and racists, they aren't the ones who have the right to determine if it is offensive.

So apparently despite knowing now that the actions of the Spanish team is seen as being offensive to Asians all over the world, you think it still isn't offensive. Wow.
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The part where it's your opinion. What would be the difference between that picture and a picture of the team wearing, hm, I don't know, kimonos, or whatever it is they wear over there? Would that be offensive? Would that be making fun?
I'm truly sorry that you don't see the difference in making fun of the physical differences and wearing traditional garb...
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it might be because of china's control over the media and their own people, but you really haven't heard boo from, say, yao ming about this issue.

it's clearly offensive even if they didn't mean it to be that way, it is largely the fault of the advertiser, though. it's easy for us to toss out the "they're grown men they should have decided not to do it" argument from afar, but it's a little different when you're actually in the situation. with the pride that these players take in competing for their national team in the olympics, one could easily see someone agreeing to do something they wouldn't normaly do so as not risk getting on the bad side of the team/country.

oh... and the first article has a factual inaccuracy. marc gasol has never set foot on an NBA court or put on an NBA uniform. he plays in europe. he was drafted by the NBA but has never come overseas to play. not that it matters, but yea.
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it might be because of china's control over the media and their own people, but you really haven't heard boo from, say, yao ming about this issue.

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I think the reason people in China haven't had an outrage is that within China, Chinese are the majority and don't generally experience this as form of discrimination. Actually, there is probably discrimination by some towards non-Chinese which is wrong too. Unfortunately, to the millions of Chinese people and families living around the world, many know the history of this action and its intent, which is not endearment but derisive and demeaning.

It's possible in regards to the media that China is trying to be on its best behaviour and not draw or enhance negative attention to the Olympics. So they told the Chinese team, don't say anything.

For anyone who thinks it's no big deal, next time you meet Asian people whether it be for a job interview, business, in the street, at school or elsewhere. Try it out and see how far it gets you.

I think the issue is over regarding the Spanish team as they have acknowledged their poor judgement.
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Well, maybe USA will crush them here this morning!!!! Wooo Hooo USA USA USA
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For anyone who thinks it's no big deal, next time you meet Asian people whether it be for a job interview, business, in the street, at school or elsewhere. Try it out and see how far it gets you.
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